Valerion VisionMaster Max

Idéal pour : Idéal pour un grand écran dans une pièce sombre, surtout pour les utilisateurs sensibles aux effets arc-en-ciel et prêts à soigner l’installation.
En bref : Les utilisateurs Reddit saluent surtout une image lumineuse, nette et contrastée, avec une réduction efficace des effets arc-en-ciel. Le consensus reste toutefois partagé en raison du prix public élevé, des compromis entre luminosité et noirs, et de signalements concernant la chauffe, le bruit et la géométrie de certains exemplaires.
Au-delà de ce modèle, la marque Valerion (toutes gammes) recueille 37 % d'avis positifs sur 454 utilisateurs Reddit. Ce signal marque ne compte pas dans la note du modèle ci-dessus.
Points forts
Installation facile et flexible
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« I've been using the same standard mount for years through different projectors and it never drifted an inch, including now with the Valerion since April (First Pro2 now Max). » Voir l’avis
« But still a really cool projector, not least because you can put an anamorphic lens on it and project in 21:9 if you so wish. » Voir l’avis
« For me I needed a very specific throw distance (12’ maximum, 10 feet minimum) and I wanted to be able to throw at least a 130” screen but preferably 135”. » Voir l’avis
Bonne qualité d’image
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« I also have a Max and am blown away by the projector/picture. » Voir l’avis
« We haven’t tested the Valerion Max at RTINGS yet, but we did review the Valerion Visionmaster Pro 2 and liked it quite a bit; if the Max genuinely improves on it, and it looks like it does, odds are… » Voir l’avis
« Valerion Pro2 or Max throws a better image than the Epson, but you need a bit of space for it » Voir l’avis
Forte luminosité
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« The Max is significantly sharper, brighter, and has a much larger color space. » Voir l’avis
« I just received my Max for a home theater I’m in the process of building. » Voir l’avis
« Lumens: No projector ever hits its advertised brightness in the most color-accurate mode. » Voir l’avis
Points faibles
Fiabilité à surveiller
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« The problem as I see it is they are no longer selling at Kickstarter prices, but they still seem to be offering a Kickstarter-esque product with all of the risk and growing pains… and none of the… » Voir l’avis
« A user reported that the laser - especially red is affected by thermal throttling which will improve by using extra fan. » Voir l’avis
« But yeah, it’s still early days with the Max, I’m sure more quirks will show up down the line. » Voir l’avis
Ventilateur parfois bruyant
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« Right now its RBE reduction isn’t quite as powerful, but it’s silent unlike the buzzing noise on the Valerion. » Voir l’avis
« According to Chris Majestic that caused his projector to emit a buzzing noise but it also baslically eliminated RBE. » Voir l’avis
« Buzzing is only with RBE reduction turned on, but I'm sensitive, so it'll stay that way. » Voir l’avis
Prix élevé
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« Oui un valerion max ou titan noir serait top. » Voir l’avis
« You could get a 98" Samsung Q7F for half the price with better features. » Voir l’avis
« I have Max and price difference are not justified » Voir l’avis
Connectique limitée
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« I’ve been reading of a lot of negative review of the projector over heating and turning off, burnt o pixels and the HDMI inputs failing. » Voir l’avis
« This doesn't matter as much for me personally, but for future proofing reasons, the max has 2 hdmi 2.1 ports and 1 2.0. » Voir l’avis
« If it really did have 4000:1 native contrast and 15000:1 dynamic it would good option at $1999 but at $3999 it's getting into JVC and Epson laser territory which neither have RBE that is inherit to… » Voir l’avis
| Critère | Note /10 | Ce qu'en dit le consensus |
|---|---|---|
| Prix | 3.3 | La valeur est jugée excellente au tarif de lancement ou en forte promotion, mais beaucoup plus contestable au prix public. |
| Image | 5.2 | L’image est souvent jugée nette, colorée et contrastée, malgré des signalements de speckle, de dérives colorées et d’artefacts liés à l’EBL. |
| Installation | 5.4 | Le décalage vertical et la plage de projection sont appréciés, mais l’absence de décalage horizontal et certains problèmes de géométrie compliquent le placement. |
| Luminosité | 5.1 | Les utilisateurs Reddit la trouvent globalement élevée, mais contestent sa constance après calibration, chauffe ou fermeture de l’iris. |
| Fiabilité | 1.5 | Les expériences sont contrastées, certains exemplaires fonctionnent sans problème, tandis que d’autres présentent chauffe, extinction, régressions logicielles ou défauts variables. |
| Connectique | 3.4 | Les retours apprécient la faible latence en jeu, tout en regrettant une connectique moins pérenne que certaines solutions concurrentes et quelques incidents HDMI. |
| Bruit | 3.2 | Le fonctionnement est souvent discret, mais le mode de réduction du RBE peut engendrer un bourdonnement aigu. |
Avis Reddit
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Vipspike 🇫🇷
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disposableh2 🇬🇧
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r/gadgets · Valerion VisionMaster Max projector review: Near-perfect image quality comes at a price I've been out of the projector space for a while, but looking at specs sheets, have things really been as stagnant as it suggests? 4k with pixel shifting, 4k 60hz only, no vrr. You could get a 98" Samsung Q7F for half the price with better features.
r/gadgets · Valerion VisionMaster Max projector review: Near-perfect image quality comes at a price For the price of this projector, you could get the 98" TV and a really really nice projector to travel with if you wanted to. Chances are you don't have your high gain fixed frame screen wherever you're going to, it's not blackout dark(because even with Lazer projectors, the ambient light makes a huge difference) - you're not needing the absolute best projector image and are happy with an average projector that you aren't nervous transporting around. I know personally, when I used a projector, I took it off the mount maybe 3 times ever.
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rferrar1 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month The photo is not color accurate to what the viewer actually sees. This is a known artifact of the phone’s inability to capture a triple laser projector correctly. The OP references that in the post. In person, the OP is seeing an image much closer to photo 1. I also have a Max and am blown away by the projector/picture. I have none of the color shifts that OP mentions but there are several reports from those that do. I believe it behaves differently depending on the video source or video player. Again ,most people do not have the color shift artifact from ebl but it is an issue for those that do. There is no better value on the market currently imho, assuming you don’t experience this issue
r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month That’s correct. If you turn off ebl that will go away. However, ebl also happens to be the reason the Max looks as good as it does from a black level/contrast perspective. What media player do you use out of curiosity and do you run it through a receiver?
r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month Hmm. I don’t have that on my Max. The edge of the screen/image lines up perfectly with the edge of the light. I’ll admit though, you might be describing something that exists but isn’t perceptible to me. Based on OPs initial post, I was speculating that they are describing this issue- https://www.reddit.com/r/projectors/s/hhv9lkcywt which is correctable with placement changes
r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month Also, regarding “light border” this is not a DLP thing. This is most likely because you’re projector is positioned too far away from the screen and you’re using some keystoning to try and have the image fit your screen. You need to check the Projector Central throw distance calculator and confirm you’re at the correct throw distance. If you are, there will be no light spill. Depending on how far you are currently off, you may be losing a lot of contrast and resolution due to the keystoning.
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Pio_RTINGS 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Unpopular Opinion: Are We Experiencing Peak Hype? My Take on the Valerion VisionMaster Max (And the Echo Chamber Review Culture) We haven’t tested the Valerion Max at RTINGS yet, but we did review the Valerion Visionmaster Pro 2 and liked it quite a bit; if the Max genuinely improves on it, and it looks like it does, odds are it’s a very good projector, and could match the Nebula X1 on many metrics. That said, we don’t rely on marketing numbers as projectors almost always measure lower post-calibration (D65), so we’ll reserve judgment until we run our standardized tests on a retail unit.
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aslanslion 🇬🇧
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r/gadgets · Valerion VisionMaster Max projector review: Near-perfect image quality comes at a price Normally $4,999 according to the Amazom and article but currently 20% off.
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subwoofage 🇬🇧
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r/hometheater · can anything beat the LS11000? Would medium throw work? Valerion Pro2 or Max throws a better image than the Epson, but you need a bit of space for it
r/hometheater · can anything beat the LS11000? Not me. Buzzing is only with RBE reduction turned on, but I'm sensitive, so it'll stay that way. I considered a mini "hushbox" to silence the buzz but I only notice it when content is paused so it's probably not worth the time
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BlueKK123 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Next Chapter Review: Valerion VisionMaster Max – Specs vs Reality Hey, I think you got me wrong. This isn’t paid stuff. I’ve actually been doing a little running series on my own Max (you might’ve even seen my earlier posts). This is just me geeking out and writing down my experience. Took me a lot of time to put it together, so kinda hurts to see it called marketing lol. I get your point though ,specs and brightness numbers can swing a lot depending on firmware, WB settings, even the iris. I’m not trying to argue absolute values, just sharing how it looks in my setup. Different takes are welcome, that’s what makes these threads fun.
r/projectors · Next Chapter Review: Valerion VisionMaster Max – Specs vs Reality Got it, thanks for the heads up! I’ll stick with the current firmware then. Bro, I guess you might’ve skimmed past. I did point out some flaws lol. But yeah, it’s still early days with the Max, I’m sure more quirks will show up down the line. Appreciate the recognition and the advice though.
r/projectors · Next Chapter Review: Valerion VisionMaster Max – Specs vs Reality Yeah I’ve spent time with the Pro2, but mostly from friends rather than owning it myself. For me the RBE on Max feels a lot more controlled, even with sensitive eyes it hasn’t bothered me the way some DLPs did before. On Pro2 I also noticed the chromatic aberration in menus like you said, but during movies it was less of an issue. Curious to hear your take once your Max arrives.
r/projectors · Next Chapter Review: Valerion VisionMaster Max – Specs vs Reality I can’t say this in an absolute way since I don’t want to sound like I’m marketing, but at least up to now I haven’t really noticed it as an issue. For me it’s been way less of a problem compared to the Pro2. Curious how you’ll feel once your unit arrives.
r/projectors · Next Chapter Review: Valerion VisionMaster Max – Specs vs Reality Totally get you, I’m pretty sensitive to RBE too. On the Max (at least in 2D) I honestly haven’t noticed it so far, even when I did the finger wave test. For me that’s a huge relief compared to older DLPs. Of course YMMV, but so far it’s been a nice surprise. Good luck with your decision!
r/projectors · Next Chapter Review: Valerion VisionMaster Max – Specs vs Reality For me it felt more like a “bonus mode” than a must-have, mainly because I don’t watch much 3D these days. I can totally see how it can be a highlight feature for others, just depends on personal use.
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-Sokobanz- 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · (Newbie) Looking for a nice projector and decided on an awol/valerion, but not sure if I should get Valerion vision master Pro2, Vision master Max, or AWOL Aetherion I would go for Pro2. I have Max and price difference are not justified
r/projectors · (Newbie) Looking for a nice projector and decided on an awol/valerion, but not sure if I should get Valerion vision master Pro2, Vision master Max, or AWOL Aetherion They patched Rainbow after I returned it and pre-ordered Max. Personally, I find blacks better on Max, but I had been using DLPs for 15 years and was used to slightly washed-off colors and less contrast in pictures compared to Max or Pro2. Your plan sounds solid. If I had Rainbow patched, I would have kept Pro2; it was a good fit for me in terms of price/quality. Give it a try. .
r/projectors · (Newbie) Looking for a nice projector and decided on an awol/valerion, but not sure if I should get Valerion vision master Pro2, Vision master Max, or AWOL Aetherion Yep, had rainbows on Pro2 and send it back, preordered Max so not much head to head comparison. Max is better i can say that, but 2k better? For me not.
r/projectors · (Newbie) Looking for a nice projector and decided on an awol/valerion, but not sure if I should get Valerion vision master Pro2, Vision master Max, or AWOL Aetherion I barely had Pro2 for two days( i catch a rainbow before patch and send it back) but was not $2k stunned with Max. It’s better in picture, no rainbow, and Iris is the thing, but i would rather save 2k if had that option. I’m perfectly happy with Max, on my 133” it’s next level after my previous Benq tk700sti. If money is not a factor, and you got a bit of perfectionism in you i would go with Max.it just better, but for me it’s not 2k better.
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Robobeast-76-R76 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month Those picture settings on the Valerion cannot be correct
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parisidiot 🇬🇧
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r/gadgets · Valerion VisionMaster Max projector review: Near-perfect image quality comes at a price who's buying this instead of spending another $1k on a sony projector?
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joe603 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Epson 6050UB or Valerion VisionMaster Pro2 in 2026 I've had both projectors but I'll just start with the pro 2. It was a major upgrade to my eyes versus the Epson. The black levels of the Epson are better, but it's not significantly better when the ebl is engaged. What is significantly better on the Valerian? Its the color volume and the HDR tone mapping. I sold the Epson some time ago which was just a secondary projector once I got the Pro 2. The Max is now better than the Pro 2 including the black levels. So if the Pro 2 was already better than the Epson and the Max to me will be much better. I don't have the Epson anymore obviously so I can't compare it to the max but I already did that with the Pro 2
r/projectors · Xigimi Titan vs Valerion Max I've already given my opinion of the new Xgimi projector the native contrast is false. It's only with the iris completely clamped down which means super low lumens. As far as the whole fan, bit that's to me more people being a little neurotic I don't use a fan. It looks completely fine. That's a tiny segment like 1% or less than a percent of owners, but of course they're going to always be the most vocal. By the way, there's a good amount of people that are seeing rainbows with the Titan which does not have the rbe reduction. So if you're sensitive to rainbows, the Titan would not be the best projector. I guess you would have to test it yourself to see how it affects you
r/projectors · Epson 6050UB or Valerion VisionMaster Pro2 in 2026 BTW I've experienced the big three and have had a number of JVC projectors actually still do have some. Guess what I'm still happy with the Max
r/projectors · Xigimi Titan vs Valerion Max The Hookup has had both and compared. He prefers the Valerian. Overall better PQ with the Iris and EBL dynamic dimming combo
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RipGroundbreaking892 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Unpopular Opinion: Are We Experiencing Peak Hype? My Take on the Valerion VisionMaster Max (And the Echo Chamber Review Culture) I was an early Max backer and received a Pro 2 loaner, so I've been using a VisionMaster for awhile now. I replaced an Optima UHD50X. The Pro2 and Max are absolutely improvements over the Optima, and not just in image quality, which is substantially better, but that would be expected for something at a higher price point and substantially newer. But there were image quality issues as well as issues with overall quality and support. There were significant issues with the UHD50X (notably a split screen issue) that Optima never resolved, there was no ongoing firmware support, and they basically abandoned a flawed product early in its lifespan. I was going to buy the BenQ HT4550 to replace it, but it also has well documented flaws, which it seems BenQ has selectively addressed with replacements. And most projector manufacturers quote the 'best' metrics even if they are in generally unusable picture modes. This is a common topic of projector reviews, where brightness is measured, often well below the ratings, in different and more accurate picture modes. Point being, the VisionMaster is a good product that is not perfect, and there's definitely some overblown hype and fanboyism happening (the Facebook group is overrun with this) but the 'anything' vendors' products you noted have had their own product issues. I had no issues with my Pro2, but a lot of people did (wifi disconnected, image sensor issues, power supplies), and my Max is now working well and it was absolutely worth the Kickstarter price. The build quality, image, and features are at the level I'd expect, in actual usage. In my room, and with my eyes, there is nothing this projector does that is problematic or detracting from the experience, both models just look great. This was not the case with the Optima. The current level of product support is also excellent but time will tell how that plays out. When I got my Max they indicated a firmware update to further refine the software was in development as well, which is a positive sign I think. Only time will tell with ongoing support or reliability.
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fivelitlpines 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · 4k projector for under 6k Don't bother with epson 5050. It's a good projector (I have one) but you want to get a laser projector nowadays. Look into Epson LS12000, QB1000, or Valerion VisionMaster Max. Max offers the best value - at $4000 it presents better image quality than Epson LS12000 ( people are upgrading from LS12000 to Max).
r/projectors · 4k projector for under 6k Interestingly reviewers compared Max side by side with JVC several times its price and the Max held up pretty well, and even has an upper hand on sharpness and color accuracy. It's certainly a market disrupter.
r/projectors · Help choosing a $5,000 projector You got the speaker bundle for $4K? I thought the speaker bundle is 5K. The 1K off coupon doesn't apply for the bundle.
r/projectors · Help choosing a $5,000 projector Sounds like Valerion VisionMaster Max is a better fit.
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cr0ft 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Epson LS11000 or 5050UB for Home Theater? At this point, probably Valerion Pro 2 or better yet the Max. The Epsons probably lose on picture quality. The Hook Up released a video testing the Valerions and other similar units today.
r/projectors · Unpopular Opinion: Are We Experiencing Peak Hype? My Take on the Valerion VisionMaster Max (And the Echo Chamber Review Culture) I mean, sure, there's hype but it's not all vapor. Here are real world measurements by a reviewer I personally think does a great job https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6mFV7XQC3o You also need to specify the competition. Epson's QB1000 for 8 grand gets, as far as I can tell, absolutely shit on by the Max.
r/projectors · Valerion VisionMaster Max or epson ls11000 The 11000 is not (to me) all that impressive. In point of fact, if you're looking for a $2000 ballpark projector and Epson, you should probably be considering the 5050ub. It's similar to the LS11000 but with a bulb lightsource instead of laser, and it has considerably better contrast and black level capabilities, surprisingly enough. Off the cuff and off hand, the over 7000:1 contrast that The Hook Up measured alone would make me go with the Valerion at this point. You'd have to make sure to install it in such a way as to minimize or eliminate the use of digital keystone but it does at least have a small 1.2 optical zoom that could probably help a lot. I believe Epson and some other old school manufacturers were just run over. They just haven't noticed yet. Another threat to Epson is coming from "above", from JVC. Their entry level is now at similar prices as Epson's QB1000 (the successor to the LS12000)... so the reasons to go Epson are rapidly diminishing if they keep their stated pricing point. But anyway... At $2 grand the Valerion looks like the one to beat imo. $3500 would sting more. Just one guy's opinion obviously.
r/projectors · Best 4K projector under 3k? The Valerion Max has a mode where they increase the speed of the color shifts. According to Chris Majestic that caused his projector to emit a buzzing noise but it also baslically eliminated RBE. But the Max is also quite expensive. But still a really cool projector, not least because you can put an anamorphic lens on it and project in 21:9 if you so wish. I'd wish... if I were in the market. Which I'm not right this second.
r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month Unfortunate that the colors couldn't be dialed in to your preference. I haven't really seen that in the other things written about it. That photo by the way is so misleading it's almost worse than not having a photo. For me the biggest wow factor with the Max in addition to the EBL and stuff is the interchangeable lens - specifically, that there's going to be an anamorphic third party lens at $1k or less (well, that's what they're aiming at). Getting real 2.35:1 widescreen for around 6 grand all in, well, that's not the usual price point for that.
r/projectors · Help choosing between Valerion or Epson I have an Epson. I'd buy a Valerion (well, in my case, either a Nexigo or maybe the new AWOL - I like UST's). The Valerion Max can use an anamorphic lens, and there's a company/guy in Canada already designing one and taking pre-orders; Valerion has said that they'll provide anamorphic support in the software to properly stretch the image to get you 2.35:1 Epson's price/performance is just not quite on point. They want stupid money for their stuff, prices that simply aren't warranted (the QB1000 for instance).
r/projectors · Valerion Max Launch Value For me, the biggest pro of the Max would be the interchangeable lens. They've demonstrated some kind of prototype of an anamorphic lens. But the total cost would add up quite a bit, I doubt such a lens would be free either.
r/projectors · Epson LS11000 or 5050UB for Home Theater? Yeah; the function seems to be to swap the colors (that's what causes RBE, sequentially switching from R to G to B) multiple times faster than normal. So each color is shown a much shorter time, so the eye no longer picks up the flashes as readily.
r/projectors · Valerion Visionmaster Max bowing issue They can make amazing projectors but I'm still mighty leery about the Chinese brands. It's more of a crapshoot than I'd like, and the support situation is amorphous at best. Especially so as I'm not in America and they have zero presence in my country, at least the US is a large enough market they must have *some* resources in place. I'd still like a Max with an Anamorphic addon lens and a proper 2.35:1 screen. Just... you know - a good one. The next step up to get an anamorphic setup is probably a five figure price hike.
r/projectors · Epson QB1000 3LCD 4K Laser Projector Review @ ProjectorScreen.com Intersting review. I'm sure it's a great projector, but the pricing is wack for a unit that's a minimal upgrade on the LS12000. If I weren't so into UST's now I'd rather buy a Valerion Max tbh. And I would, based on that unit alone, dispute that there's nothing comparable in the price range, on paper all the stats of the Visionmaster Max dropkicks the QB1000 into a well, "300" and "this is Sparta!" style.
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sirphatsalot 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Epson LS12000 vs Valerion VisonMaster Max I had the 5050ub with a MadVR htpc. I now have a Visionmaster Max also using that same MadVR htpc. The Max is significantly sharper, brighter, and has a much larger color space. The black level is about the same. The 5050ub might beat it slightly there but it's close. The 5050ub is much louder too and twice the size/weight. It has horizontal shift whereas the Max does not, so that's a plus if you can't center the projector. Overall the Max is a clear upgrade and I absolutely loved my 5050 for years.
r/projectors · Epson LS12000 vs Valerion VisonMaster Max The 5050/5060 UB can do a little bit beyond rec709 color normally or if you engage the color filter with digital cinema mode, it can do most of P3, however, you take a huge brightness hit, which in my opinion makes it unwatchable. The Max on the other hand can do about 100% rec2020 which is incredible (even $30k JVC can't do that). 3D on the Max has less crosstalk than Epson so it appears clearer, however, you can't disable rainbow effect for 3D on the Max at the moment like you can with regular content (which sucks if you are sensitive to it). Hopefully they fix it in a firmware update. Also currently the Max has a bug where it's missing half the resolution in 3d content, but that should be fixed as well. I didn't really notice the half resolution issue, but it's a confirmed thing. But even with those two flaws, it's actually pretty good. To be honest, I'm so happy with the MadVR processing for both tonemapping as well as black bar detection, I haven't really tried the Max's built in tonemapping. I have my MadVR settings dialed in pretty well, I can't imagine built in tonemapping can beat it. But I hear it's pretty good, generally!
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ytuhs 🇬🇧
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r/hometheater · can anything beat the LS11000? I’ve been loving my VisionMaster Max, super impressed so far
r/hometheater · can anything beat the LS11000? This is my first, however I spent months researching. For me I needed a very specific throw distance (12’ maximum, 10 feet minimum) and I wanted to be able to throw at least a 130” screen but preferably 135”. Those two requirements greatly reduced the number of projectors that will work for me. Then I wanted something that was versatile enough to work in no light conditions and in well-lit conditions for sports games, etc (it’s a fully light controlled room). I wanted to get deep blacks, have no noticeable RBE, and have high quality picture. I found side by side comparisons to be the most helpful for me and for me it came down to BenQ, Valerion, and Epson. In the end the Valerion VisionMaster Pro2 and the Max stood out from the others for my specific requirements, and I like the aesthetic as well. I just sent it in their Black Friday deal and I’ve been quite impressed thus far!
r/hometheater · can anything beat the LS11000? I’ve only got the cheapo Valerion screen mostly because I wanted to avoid ALR & laser speckle. Obviously in full light no projector is going to be perfect, but I don’t think many people are watching sports and like “wow the black levels are stunning in this game” lol. For my eye, it’s got a great picture higher brightness and extremely good in low light (check out the YouTube reviews of it against $17,000 projectors, side by side it kills the $17k projector).
r/projectors · Help choosing a $5,000 projector I faced a similar decision this Black Friday and ended up going with the Valerion VisionMaster Max. Every review I’ve seen on it seems promising, but the real selling point was that I have a max throw of 12’ and the Valerion came out on top for throw distance for me
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Some_Ad_3898 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Unpopular Opinion: Are We Experiencing Peak Hype? My Take on the Valerion VisionMaster Max (And the Echo Chamber Review Culture) Cherry-picking specs and anecdotes to criticize or hype a projector is the same thing. The overall package is what matters and you will have a hard time beating the Valerion Max at this price. The Hook Up recently did a good review and if you pay attention, he works through the nuances and illustrated why specs don't tell the whole story. https://youtu.be/F6mFV7XQC3o
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Materidan 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion - Quality problems The problem as I see it is they are no longer selling at Kickstarter prices, but they still seem to be offering a Kickstarter-esque product with all of the risk and growing pains… and none of the financial incentive. The Pro 2 is now $3000 and the Max is $4000. That’s a far cry from the original $2000 and $2200. At those price jumps, I would expect a refined product with software and quality control issues worked out.
r/projectors · Valerion Visionmaster Max bowing issue Although it’s sucky, a tiny bit of overscan into black velvet (either added or on a fixed frame screen) would probably hide that.
r/projectors · Valerion Max Lens Shift when Ceiling Mounted According to the calculator, 130” at 13’ would allow the top of the image (which is aligned with the top of the lens) to be shifted upwards by 34”.
r/projectors · Epson LS11000 vs others Yeah, but the 82% price increase for the Max kind of turns it from an excellent deal to what feels like a rip-off for anyone who comes later. I know Kickstarters need a discount, but they’ve kind of shot themselves in the foot on that one for future “msrp” sales. I’d rather spend $2600 for a LS11000, than $4000 for a Max that used to be $2200. Plus it’s DLP, and I’m very sensitive to rainbows, so it already has that negative to overcome.
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Unusual-Bandicoot-19 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month The Valerion does not look like this is reality. I'm assuming that's due to it being DLP. They look nearly identical in person. I was not able to have my camera reflect it correctly though. I attached the image just for context, but it shouldn't be used to compare colors.
r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month Yea, that photo of the Valerion isn't what it really looks like, unfortunately. They look much more similar in person. But on my phone and one a Sony camera, the photos kept turning out that way.
r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month This was Apple TV through a Marantz AVR. But I’ve also tried without the AVR and also directly through the android tv built into the unit. Haven’t noticed much difference between them.
r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month I wasn't able to take pictures that are representative of what I'm actually seeing in person. This photo is just for context of how I had them set up to evaluate. In reality, they looked nearly identical at distance. I'm not sure how to take accurate photos of the DLP.
r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month Yea I definitely get why people don’t like how big the Epson remote is. But I strangely like it. Regarding colors, you may be right about how I see the colors. But fwiw my wife has the exact same opinion about the tint. Either way, we’re aligned on preferring the Epson image 9 times out of 10, so that’s what we kept. I’ve come to realize how much of this can come down to preference over specs.
r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month You’re probably right about the photo being too misleading. Even with description, I probably shouldn’t have it. At first, the discussions understood my point, but now it’s distracting from what I was really trying to convey. There’s no way to remove or replace it, is there? And yes I think the interchangeable lenses are an awesome feature at this price point. Especially with how bright this thing is.
r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month I wasn’t going for a hit piece by any means. I tried photographing them individually, but that doesn’t make a difference. I debated whether to include the image at all because on the surface it’s misleading. Maybe I shouldn’t have included it. I did include it just to provide context and validity to how I observed them side by side simultaneously IRL. Then I made clear to explain it. In terms of quality issue, that’s what’s I’m genuinely trying to see if it’s me, a setting, or something is actually wrong with the unit. Turns out the color flickering was identified to be a setting (EBL). And I highly praised some aspects of the Valerion that I really am impressed by. I’m just trying to offer a few more data points that I hadn’t seen represented in any of the research I’ve been doing heavily over the past month. Didn’t mean to offend.
r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month You're right this isn't what I'm seeing IRL at all, they're much closer in reality. That being said, the colors still felt consistently worse compared to the Epson. I am using a white screen already as well. And the sudden flickering of colors was the other thing that wouldn't be fixed by a screen.
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r/projectors · Next Chapter Review: Valerion VisionMaster Max – Specs vs Reality 3D is awsome in Max and Pro2 . I don´t knowwhy you considerer it a quirk??!!
r/projectors · Valerion Vision Master Max - new projector from IFA But the Valerion i guess it´s true 4k , it´s not 2x1080p...
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r/projectors · (Newbie) Looking for a nice projector and decided on an awol/valerion, but not sure if I should get Valerion vision master Pro2, Vision master Max, or AWOL Aetherion Rather get the newer xgimi titan noir. Also, imo none of your choice are bright enough for 150"-200" screen.
r/projectors · Next Chapter Review: Valerion VisionMaster Max – Specs vs Reality NP, anyway since you're not a troll so if you watch the max and over time you notice the red are dimmer then you can try using an external fan. A user reported that the laser - especially red is affected by thermal throttling which will improve by using extra fan.
r/projectors · Next Chapter Review: Valerion VisionMaster Max – Specs vs Reality Lol paid marketing on reddit? "3500 ISO lumens sounded like marketing fluff" - it is, as early review feedback with latest firmware say after wb adjustment it only as bright as the pro2 - 3000 ISO lumens. Both after wb adjustment is only around 2400 lumens, highest iris on the max you'll get ~1300 lumens.
r/projectors · Valerion Vision Master pro 2- never fails to impress It's so good that Valerion couldn't even make the significantly more expensive flagship max model to be brighter. The max will throttle the laser till it's dimmer than this pro2.
r/projectors · Quick question regarding Valerion Visionmaster Max Lol their flagship max is a failure then. It was promised a long throw custom lens, dynamic iris and 15% brighter than pro2 - it achieved none. 9 months delay just to get a vertical lens shift haha
r/projectors · Quick question regarding Valerion Visionmaster Max Just get a projector that fits your need, don't buy one and compromise yourself. Plenty of projector options out there, find something else.
r/projectors · Valerion Vision Master pro 2- never fails to impress Just set your pro 2 laser to level 5 and imagine a bit darker black level, that's it haha
r/projectors · Valerion Max Launch Value On the latest firmware for the max, it's actually dimmer than pro2 even with iris fully open.
r/projectors · (Newbie) Looking for a nice projector and decided on an awol/valerion, but not sure if I should get Valerion vision master Pro2, Vision master Max, or AWOL Aetherion Pro2 and max will have no difference for your room, higher contrast level need darker room. Save your pj money and spend it on alr screen. The max on highest iris is just a dimmer pro2 on laser 3 but with darker grey (black level) in dark scenes.
r/projectors · Optoma P1 upgrade, AWOL Aetherion Max vs Valerion VisionMaster Max, UST or long throw? Wtf wdym long throw is better? Fyi ust are where the new long throw gets innovation trickle down. You see the likes of valerion, nebula getting 3-4k native contrast - ust has them for years already. Even now the only usable dynamic iris is ust like nexigo ap mk2 - valerion had to cancel theirs despite writing it on their lens (shows how far behind ust that LT are at now). Valerion newest and best projector? - a new ust. Although LT do have higher ansi contrast in comparison to ust but most room or even a cave won't see a difference. However, do note awol / valerion has history of making empty promises and false claims. They previously gave out golden unit with black iris that has better ansi contrast while then quietly changed to lesser silver iris. Their max which they claim to be 15% brighter than pro2 turns out to be even dimmer post calibration. Imo better to get hisense or nexigo for ust, or wait for more options.
r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month Most use cinema / theatre mode, it's more accurate and balanced. https://www.avsforum.com/posts/64290258/
r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month Same reason they have an unusable forced dimming so they can make BS marketing claim like 6000:1 contrast etc. Their supporters are ok with it and even enthusiastic about buying the additional fan, they even share 3d template, diy tutorial to replace the internal fans, brands of fan to get for the external one, where to place the fan using thermal camera etc.
r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month OP the calibration needs to be done after ~30-60 mins as their laser throttle over time due to thermal.
r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month Think your issue with Valerion color might be due to brightness- the valerion throttle their red laser over time due to thermal which will need recalibration of wb. After that the brightness will dipped by 20-30%. A lot of Valerion users are buying external fan as a way to counter the thermal problem.
r/projectors · Epson LS12000 vs Valerion VisonMaster Max If you read avsforum you can try their other thread on Valerion too. Some of the issues brought up is needing external fan to reduce thermal throttling, bad CS support, slow bug / firmware update, alignment issue with bowing if you use 1.5 throw, 3d only show half resolution and missing pixels etc - tbf mediatek cpu issue, picture too green / yellow that adjust point is insufficient to correct it.
r/projectors · Epson LS12000 vs Valerion VisonMaster Max After wb calibration and laser throttling, it more like 1300-2300 lumens depending on iris level. Did you even use the iris? If not, that's just a more expensive pro2.
r/projectors · Epson LS12000 vs Valerion VisonMaster Max Oh whoa, such comments to read Kansas ppl opinion a year ago will be severely mocked it. Guess they're vindicated after more ppl reported rbe issue and Valerion themselves added rbe reduction feature.
r/projectors · Valerion VisionMaster Max Anti-RBE, how bad is the noise? For really sensitive users they will still see rbe. For completely zero rainbow it will still be epson. There's also color drift, laser speckle, dithering and metamerism issue that's not an issue on Epson too.
r/projectors · Valerion VisionMaster Max Anti-RBE, how bad is the noise? Why not the new xgimi titan noir series? It has anti rbe and more features too. Or you just prefer older projector that is also dimmer?
r/projectors · Seeking suggestions: pull-down screen for Valerion Max in white room (details in post) My pro2 and max will disagree. Thanks. Lol talking about ebl in bright room, really special kind of breed of fans.
r/projectors · valerion visionmaster max or xgimi titan noir max Such thinking is why Valerion users are buying 2 additional external fan and modifying the internal fan / case. There were dozens and dozens of valerion out there too, yet the thermal issue was not caught earlier too. True, but the opposite doesn't work too. What's the point of silent fan when it has thermal throttling and can't perform? Look at the old intel macbook that needed to use a freezer to cool it.
r/projectors · valerion visionmaster max or xgimi titan noir max Then that's just disappointing. Is it quiet is not a good measure. Look at valerion, they intentionally made the projector quieter by changing the fan curve, it ended up quieter at the expense of thermal - it became hotter as the fan rpm was lowered and they tell users to use external fans.
r/projectors · valerion visionmaster max or xgimi titan noir max Get the latest one, valerion was a 2024 model that got delayed - it doesn't have water cooling like newer pj.
r/projectors · Valerion Pro 2 and understanding screen light bounce/bleed Imo it depends on which kind of room you prefer to view your content. Some do prefer the cave as it's more "cinematic", while others prefer a normal room and some even prefer to have the room with lights on. For speckle, you need to see it yourself as you might be ok with it or you don't even see it. Wab or spandex is a way to reduce the speckle. You can also consider alpd or hybrid projector as they have less speckle. Imo don't get a long throw like valerion pro2/ max and use it with alr/clr screen as long throw ones don't work as well. If you need alr/clr screen then go for ust. There's the upcoming nexigo ap mk2 and hisense px4 pro. For screen size 150" will definitely be a nice experience but if you rather not deal with a completely dark room or alr screen then imo going for 98" tv is the better choice. However, do note if you can fit the tv into your house as mine is limited to 86", like physically can't even fit into the door.
r/projectors · Seeking suggestions: pull-down screen for Valerion Max in white room (details in post) Valerion users are really special and rich, easily splurge for a long throw that don't do well with alr screen and using it in bright room instead of a ust with alr screen. Maybe they like elevated black level.
r/projectors · Help me choose my first projector – AWOL Aetherion Max vs Hisense Vidda C3 Ultra Even jvc can't give you oled black. For context my $150 55" hisense QLED e7 tv has 350 nits and 5000 contrast, so it has better PQ than my $5k 120" Valerion max. Also, the tv is consider dim at 350 nits too. Bigger size picture is nice but you shouldn't expect tv PQ, don't say oled as it can't even beat basic QLED tv in terms of PQ.
r/projectors · Unpopular Opinion: Are We Experiencing Peak Hype? My Take on the Valerion VisionMaster Max (And the Echo Chamber Review Culture) Best part is when you call out such people they hide and say they're not "reviewers" but just someone giving feedback. While Valerion feature them in a video hyping the product for marketing, they also eat dinner with Valerion team during conference. So for example the person say valerion max is brighter than nebula x1 despite x1 having extra headroom, the person just reply it's what they can see. So no need to post actual lumens numbers and simply say brighter while not even under NDA but is just being respectful to them by not giving out the numbers. Now it turns out the valerion max is even dimmer than the pro2 lol. Even if your points are valid and correcting the person, they would play victim card and act like they're being harassed while ignoring the points made were needed to correct them.
r/projectors · Quick question regarding Valerion Visionmaster Max Lol don't they still list the black iris on the max, while selling with silver iris. Their marketing page means nothing.
r/projectors · Valerion Vision Master pro 2- never fails to impress With maximum iris but with open iris it's still a bit dimmer than pro2 in laser 10 but in dark scenes the black floor is lower - from grey in pro2 to a bit darker grey on max. It trades half the brightness for 2x contrast in dark scenes.
r/projectors · Xigimi Titan vs Valerion Max 100 nits is the target for sdr but even then a lot of people prefer even brighter picture. There's a feedback from someone who use 2.8 gain screen and enjoyed it, so even 100 nits may not be enough for sdr. Supposedly the target for hdr will be 200 nits. Yes tri laser with decent tone map can do decently for hdr but your size is too big and projector with iris will lose even more brightness. Imo no projector can do hdr like a tv that can easily hit 1000 nits. Even with decent tone mapping there will issues such as clipping etc. Also, 12 feet throw for 151", ain't that 1.0 throw ratio? Which will mean you will lose ~40% contrast. Projector does best at their minimum zoom / max throw which for Valerion will be 1.5 throw ratio.
r/projectors · Valerion Max Lens Shift when Ceiling Mounted Yes imo the best range will be between 56" - 88", actually even valerion suggest not to maximize the optical shift as it has issue with bowing and uneven picture. Within the shift range and perpendicular should get you the rectangle.
r/projectors · Valerion Max Lens Shift when Ceiling Mounted Their lens shift is meant for a stand or coffee table and not ceiling mount which still need to be align with the screen. If your screen is at 88" height then the projector needs to be there too. The vertical shift range for the projector placement will be from 56" - 88" for your screen. So it's either you align the pj to the middle or top of your screen.
r/projectors · HT - XW5000ES vs. NZ500 vs. VisionMaster Max If you can afford jvc and sony, just get them. The Valerion is not worth its retail price considering its competitors like nebula, dangbei, xgimi are all significantly cheaper. If you can fit 115" tv, just get them. Not easy to fit into the door, hall way, lift so if you can make it work then tv is better imo.
r/projectors · Epson 6050UB or Valerion VisionMaster Pro2 in 2026 Tbf it's competition like dangbei s7 and nebula x1 are around that price. The max retail price is absurd.
r/projectors · Need advice to choose between Xgimi Horizon 20/20 pro vs Valerion visionmaster pro 2 Sure great if you have a proper room but at the retail price imo the likes of nebula x1 will be a better value. Maybe dangbei s7 max too, as both have iris like valerion max.
r/projectors · Need advice to choose between Xgimi Horizon 20/20 pro vs Valerion visionmaster pro 2 You'll need a proper room to even see the difference. Imagine 100 nits for 15000 contrast, that's 0.006 nits black floor. You'll need a cave for that black floor, OP bed room likely ain't it. OP just get the cheapest one, xgimi 20
r/projectors · Unpopular Opinion: Are We Experiencing Peak Hype? My Take on the Valerion VisionMaster Max (And the Echo Chamber Review Culture) Iirc nexigo has something similar to fixed iris as it limits the brightness. I prefer ust due to better and easier choice of alr screen. Xgimi 20, nebula x1 are different than nexigo alpd ones fyi. So your sensitivity to rbe and speckle matters in such choice. It's not that nebula x1 doesn't suffer sub issue, it's inherent to all dynamic dimming and nebula has one too. However, if you disable nebula subpar dynamic, then their native contrast with iris won't have such issue. Native contrast in the nebula x1 has the advantage over Valerion whose advantage is the ebl which works great if you don't use subtitles. Nebula version of ebl is not great so it's not really a loss for users using subtitles. Nebula x1 lens is sharper but cpu is laggier and has more rbe than the significantly more expensive valerion max though.
r/projectors · Unpopular Opinion: Are We Experiencing Peak Hype? My Take on the Valerion VisionMaster Max (And the Echo Chamber Review Culture) For nexigo tri vision you should wait for mk2, supposedly launching soon. If you have no experience with tri laser dlp, you should demo first to check your sensitivity to rbe or buy one with great return policy. For subtitles users go for higher native contrast, so projector with iris. However, do note you will trade brightness for the contrast. May not be suitable for big screen users. Best is Dangebi s7 max, for good value it's nebula x1 and for rbe sensitive user it's valerion max (it's good but only if you can get it for less than $3k).
r/projectors · Unpopular Opinion: Are We Experiencing Peak Hype? My Take on the Valerion VisionMaster Max (And the Echo Chamber Review Culture) Lol agree with the echo chamber. You post negative things on their avs thread and fb page, they'll call you trolling haha. I got banned from both for pointing out their bias. Valerion fanbois are also big fans of dynamic contrast as they don't seem to use subtitles. You can see their comparison videos / pictures showing ebl and how great it is are all without subtitles, which is fine for americans who only watch english content. Think you might saw my comment on x1 with iris having better contrast but the gap is not that big and it's due to valerion max throttling. Valerion does have upside with ebl (if you don't use white subtitles), global support, english menu, faster chip compared to x1, rbe reduction. Downside, it's losing in terms of brightness to newer ones like nebula x1, jmgo n5, viddda c5 and dangbei s7. X1 is sharper too. Valerion retail price is unnecessarily high too. Their support is non existent and feels like abandoned ware. Pro2 only has 1 fw update in ~9 months and still got plenty of bugs. For users sensitive to rbe and want English menu, global warranty support and want snappier built in google tv, Valerion seems to be the only option for tri laser. Don't buy retail price though.
r/projectors · Unpopular Opinion: Are We Experiencing Peak Hype? My Take on the Valerion VisionMaster Max (And the Echo Chamber Review Culture) Posting is an indicator of nothing for reddit, my last post was 5y ago but my comments are quite active. The projector certainly is not exceeding all expectations. The hook up youtuber doesn't even use it for his daily use. Valerion own fb mod is complaining about the lack of support. Early user of the max has been complaining about thermal throttling too. Just be fair and say it's a good projector and list down both the upside and downside. Ebl is still great if the user use case can use it. Other parts of valerion is being matched by competitors now.
r/projectors · Hisense C2 Ultra vs Valerion Pro 2 Questions Yes, it's inherent to dynamic contrast. However there is a work around ish - just the color of subtitles to dark color or higher opacity. The issue is simple, ebl - dynamic contrast won't activate with subtitles in dark scenes is simply due to the subtitle being the brightness part of the scene. So how can the laser dim in dark scenes when there's a bright subtitle in it.
r/projectors · Valerion Max Launch Value 3d glasses, mount and speakers you can get 3rd party ones. Imo it's not worth the retail considering the likes of dangbei s7 / nebula x1 you can get it for $2-3k. Unless you really value their dynamic contrast EBL.
r/projectors · Next Chapter Review: Valerion VisionMaster Max – Specs vs Reality Not human but meter says the supposedly brighter one is not and may also be dimmer after wb calibration adjustment with the new firmware.
r/projectors · Next Chapter Review: Valerion VisionMaster Max – Specs vs Reality Ah cool, the lack of criticism makes it feel like it was marketing though. My bad, good work and thanks for sharing. Also, don't update or downgrade your fw as other user who did that loss 10% brightness for every change. Iirc his max is now dimmer than his pro2.
r/projectors · Testing out Xgimi Horizon 20 Max, 5700 lumens X1 likely is better but has rbe issue, even Valerion max couldn't beat its numbers outside of ebl.
r/projectors · Valerion VisionMaster Max or Nebula X1 Pro Imo worst part is all the review and hype result can be meaningless after an update or when the user actually gets the unit. For example the valerion release an update with patches and newer feature however it also regress the performance. They even initially claim that their iris was black which has higher ansi contrast, it was only till user noticed it by accident that it was silver. Some early users and reviewers got the black iris though.
r/projectors · Valerion VisionMaster Max or Nebula X1 Pro You got downvoted but you're right, it has thermal throttling issue and the official solution is just to make users buy additional fans. What's the point of the internal fans then haha
r/projectors · Valerion VisionMaster Max or Nebula X1 Pro Do you want to be in a pitch dark room with your clients? Even if you do, maybe your clients wont. Long throw like your 2 options need a cave for their black level. So imo better to get ust projector + alr screen if the room has any ambient light and not a cave. Color accuracy is also an issue with tri laser dlp due to metamerism, it's so bad that the recommended way to calibrate is just base on visual comparison as the meter result can't be trusted. For color accurate professional work, stick to a monitor.
r/projectors · Valerion Max for Basement Setup Your room is not dark enough, so better to get ust + alr screen. Long throw like valerion needs a cave. However, if you insist on long throw try using black triple velvet or felt cloth instead of darker paint. Floor and ceilings will need to be covered too.
r/projectors · Valerion Visionmaster Max bowing issue Yeah possible but not just qc but hardware itself can be different as the Valerion max has something similar with their iris. Some early users and reviewers got the one with black iris which has higher ansi contrast while everyone else gets a silver iris - despite their marketing on the website that says black iris. Their CS response was it has no difference - which is not true. Hence, in the link I mentioned reviews are meaningless as the unit that user receives will likely be different than those reviewers. The person that replied was insistent that since it is was in mass production phase means there will be no changes and there won't be qc issues. Also, all the awards and youtuber review must be right.
r/projectors · Valerion Visionmaster Max bowing issue Yeah it has bowing issue along with thermal throttling that make you lose 30% brightness without additional external fans, their supporters are ok with it though.
r/projectors · Unpopular Opinion: Are We Experiencing Peak Hype? My Take on the Valerion VisionMaster Max (And the Echo Chamber Review Culture) It's only stupid cuz you didn't keep up with the users complain. Early user feedback, he had to use a massive 35w 120v 180mm fan as exhaust for about 15min for the with fan measurements, sounds like a vacuum. Iris 6, warmed up. - https://www.avsforum.com/posts/64208085/
r/projectors · Xigimi Titan vs Valerion Max Do you have the room that's dark enough for iris to matter? Do you watch content with subtitles? Your light control as in black wall / ceiling and floor kind of room or just no window? Max over titan will be if you have a room dark enough and don't use subtitles. Titan is significantly brighter. Actually even if you pick max, I rather go for the brighter nebula x1 which has dynamic iris or brighter dangbei s7 (ai mode) Valerion requires additional fan - need at least 140mm one stick to its side to prevent throttling, looks ugly though. Also, might need a towel or foam to rest as some report unwanted noise / rattling.
r/projectors · Valerion Visionmaster Pro 1 or Hisense C2 Ultra For some people they can be too sensitive that even reduction feature won't help. Best to use other solution like 3lcd and alpd. I say the other is due to if rbe is not an issue, i prefer c2 ultra due to the speakers. I use subtitles so not a fan of dynamic contrast hence Valerion advantage is a wash for me.
r/projectors · Unpopular Opinion: Are We Experiencing Peak Hype? My Take on the Valerion VisionMaster Max (And the Echo Chamber Review Culture) It did got beat by dangbei s7 ultra numbers, ~38% brighter too.
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r/projectors · Projector Recommendations Around $3-$4k The LS11000 will be handily outmatched by the Titan Noir. Hell, the 7+ year old Epson 5050UB is a better option than the LS11000. The Valerion Max also is a step up on the LS11000. The LS11000 is a LCD laser projector, other than that, it is a pretty weak overall performer. Careful where you get your reviews from. AVS Forum is a good resource. Reddit can be dodgy, but some people know what they are talking about.
r/projectors · valerion visionmaster max or xgimi titan noir max The Hook Up looked at both models and he said that the Noir was better than the Max. That was enough to push me to jump in on the Kickstarter. We will see how it pans out. I installed a Valerion Max recently, so I do have the ability to test them side by side if needed. Really, the Valerion is one of the best looking projectors I've seen, and the price I paid was fully worth it. I struggle to ever pay more than $3,000 for a projector for my theater. I expect in a few years, we will see this level of quality for under $3,000 regularly.
r/projectors · Best Projector to Buy in 2026? (Price, Brightness, Resolution) As I sit here staring at a Valerion Max, I feel like your opinion on this is kinda crazy. For what it is worth, I can't stand sparkling, and do notice it when I see it. I'm also RBE sensitive, and I am capable of seeing it with this model, and it is incredibly low RBE compared to other models I have seen. If you just don't like DLP, then that has nothing to do with the light technology used.
r/projectors · Quick question regarding Valerion Visionmaster Max Despite what was said by others, the Valerion Max is a excellent looking projector. It has been very well reviewed, and tested, by various reputable websites and professional reviewers. I have one installed at a client's home and it looks amazing. Tested my JVC DLA-X590 against it and it was sharper, and brighter by a mile with what appears as very similar black levels. The jump in brightness, color saturation, and sharpness is what really got me thinking about swapping my JVC to one. If not Valerion, then perhaps a XGimi Horizon 20 series. But, honestly, if you can't get the projector up a foot or two, then just stick with a model that offers a much longer throw distance. Epson has been quite nice, but I would then go to JVC if my budget allowed for it at all. I like Epson as a company, and I appreciate that they are calling others out for overstating the projector's brightness, but, in fairness, with best color accuracy? Epson is a LONG way off from their claimed brightness very often once calibrated for best image performance. The LS12000, rated at 2,700 lumens, measures about 1,000-1,400 lumens when in 'best' modes. So, don't really expect a massive jump in brightness to go along with the jump in contrast. [https://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson-Pro-Cinema-LS12000-Laser-Projector-Review.htm](https://www.projectorcentral.com/Epson-Pro-Cinema-LS12000-Laser-Projector-Review.htm) The JVC DLA-NZ500 offers a lot for the money, but mostly in native 4K panel design, and amazing native contrast. It's not nearly as bright as a Valerion or XGimi model. But, in a good theater, it completely rocks. If you haven't looked at The Hook Up on YouTube, take some time looking at his videos. This one in particular really does apply to what you are asking about... [https://youtu.be/B4\_MhHsZvkU?si=gfXojXxrvbWH41Cq](https://youtu.be/B4_MhHsZvkU?si=gfXojXxrvbWH41Cq)
r/projectors · Valerion Max vs Epson LS11000 There is a lot to like about what Valerion is doing with their product. There was a recent shootout on YouTube pitting the Valerian Pro (I beleive) against JMGO and XGimi and it was a clearly better model. I'm not sure it will end up being better than the 5050UB in the real world, but it may be a really solid competitor, and the lens shift and zoom range are real stand outs. If someone is chasing a really solid DLP projector, then I think this may be the model to get in 2025 when it finally is available to the public. I am only concerned with them using the smaller .47" DLP chip and hope it proves to be incredibly reliable overall. The Epson is a proven product. It is supported by a well established manufacturer. It is known to be really good. So, there is that.
r/projectors · Valerion VisionMaster Max or Nebula X1 Pro The JMGO N3 Ultimate really should be on your watch list as well. If this is to be fully installed, then consider the XGimi Titan Noir in the list as well. The X1 Pro is a projector, plus a separate sound system, smooshed together. Unless you need that portable sound system, then don't buy them together. Get a surround sound system and get a projector, and install them both properly. I have installed the VisionMaster Max, and frankly it hasn't had any issues during use and looks great. One of the best looking models I have ever installed. While some do complain of throttling issues, this is not something I experienced on my installation and testing of the projector. The XGimi Titan Noir is designed for installation and home theater far more than the lifestyle models like the JMGO N3 Ultimate. But, image wise, they will be very close to one another and will all look really good.
r/projectors · Projector Recommendations Around $3-$4k I have read, heavily, reviews. I have personally seen the 5050UB, I have a JVC DLA-X590R which is generally considered better than the 5050UB. I have seen the Valerion Max, myself, and put it up against my JVC, and was thoroughly blown away by how much better the Valerion performs compared to the JVC. Any number of reviewers have been disappointed by the LS11000 in that it doesn't match the contrast of the 5050UB which is years older. It is between the 4010 and the 5050UB in terms of contrast, and yes, contrast is king. Considering the Valerion Max has been put up against the current JVC models, which are several steps better than the LS11000, and the Titan Noir Max is compared better, from trusted reviewers than the Valerion Max, it once again, makes it a no-brainer. It's less money and looks better and sharper than the LS12000. Why would you spend even more money on the LS11000 to get a drop in quality? When I say better, I mean for HDR performance. For contrast. For motion handling. For color accuracy. Placement flexibility goes to Epson almost every day of the week. For good reason. But, the Titan Noir comes closest of any sub $3,000 DLP projector. Far better than the competing BenQ models or Valerion Pro. It's not an all-or-nothing scenario. Epson will have wins. No RBE on Epson, that's massive for people who are RBE sensitive. But, a step down in contrast from the 7 year old 5050UB is a slap in the face to consumers. Yeah, I'm informed. I do my homework. I own multiple projectors. I've seen many different models. I don't think the LS11000 is crap. It is a very solid $2,500 (maybe $3,000) projector. It is a very overpriced $4,000 projector. The competition it has is very real and the only reason to spend that type of money is because someone is seriously RBE sensitive.
r/projectors · Universal Remote w/ Valerion Visionmaster Pro 2 I didn't have any luck with my Denon powering on/off the Valerion Max when I was using it. Not sure why. I did have the ability to send CEC codes to the projector though through my remote system, and that ended up working just fine, so that's what I went with.
r/projectors · Valerion Master Pro2 I will add that I have seen screens that are on the cheap side that use beaded glass surfaces on them. They are high gain, using the cheapest materials possible. So, they tend to sparkle and shimmer when using any brighter projector. I've seen this on a number of positive gain screens over the years, and especially cheaper manual screens. I had a buddy who was showing off his setup, but I couldn't get past the sparkling effect I was seeing. I've become much more intolerant of it over the years. That said, I'm didn't see any sparkle/shimmer using the Valerion Max on a WAB Silver Ticket screen. None.
r/projectors · Valerion Max for Basement Setup The 120" screen size seems reasonable if you must buy it before you can check out the screen size for yourself. The Valerion is a solid projector that looks really good. Excellent choice. Not sure at all about the screen they sell with it. If it is a motorized screen, then I'd pass on that for a fixed frame screen if you can do so. Nothing that seems to indicate that you can't use a fixed frame screen in that room. As such, compare pricing within that of the Silver Ticket 120" matte white screen or similar. The projector location will be determined by the screen size. If you have some location you are hoping to use on your ceiling, then you still need to ensure you can get the screen size you are hoping for from that distance. Another option is the XGimi Titan Noir Max which is a very good value on Kickstarter right now, and has an excellent image as well. Don't forget about room audio. It deserves just as much, or more consideration than the projector itself.
r/projectors · valerion visionmaster max or xgimi titan noir max I don't believe there is a 'clear winner' here. XGimi will have firmware updates which can help with everything, but you can also calibrate to your liking, which may make them both very similar. It's not like one is awesome and the other sucks. It is that one is awesome and the other is also awesome, but one is slightly better in one category and the other is slightly better in another category. At the end of the day, neither truly ends up being significantly better in any obvious matter. The Valerion Max is a hell of a projector. I'd probably just stick with that if you own it already.
r/projectors · Benq HT2060 and BenQ W4100i I think you really have to go to models with a lot more brightness which we are seeing from products like the Valerion Max or the XGimi Horizon 20 series. The new Noir series from XGimi should be pretty incredible as well. Just a superior level of brightness overall. The large DLP chip used in the HT2060 has been out for years, and is a really high quality product with solid contrast and BenQ has nailed their product delivery for the last 10+ years with this chip since the W1070 was released.
r/projectors · Horizon 20 Max vs Titan Noir Pro for primary use home projector Bluetooth is not a 'sound system' - It's a type of headphone. Don't expect audio to be in sync, or for high quality audio doing things this way. Serviceable. That's it. I would go for the Noir if installing permanently. The form factor is a little more low profile, so it can be used with proper traditional projector mounts which will hold it securely in place. That's a big plus after installing the Valerion Max and finding the ceiling mount and the significant drop of the projector to be pretty major flaws in the overall setup. Otherwise, as both come from XGimi, I wouldn't expect massive differences in them.
r/projectors · Best Projector to Buy in 2026? (Price, Brightness, Resolution) I don't have any high pitched noise at all. The projector runs really quiet overall. I seriously have no idea if there has been any firmware update for RBE reduction, but I can tell you I just find RBE very hard to see on this one. Feels like an 8x or faster color wheel equivalent. I have to look for RBE, and even then, it's barely there. So, thumbs up to them on doing a great job. I see it way easier on my BenQ W1070, which I do find mildly irritating when watching a movie.
r/projectors · From Epson to modern Projectors, the past view years in my view. whats yours? I use a JVC DLA-X590 on a daily basis, but just installed the Valerion Max at my brother's home. I put the JVC up next to the Valerion and the Valerion was a great deal brighter and had a super punchy image. I would likely buy something like the Horizon 20 if I were looking to buy a new projector right now. I do think it's a really great buy.
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r/projectors · valerion visionmaster max or xgimi titan noir max There are many who tested both in this thread: https://www.avsforum.com/threads/xgimi-pushes-into-premium-projection-with-the-titan-noir-max.3339013/page-387?post_id=64575537#post-64575537 But if you don’t want to read through hundreds of pages then yes the Titan Noir Max is much better than the Valerion in most regards. There are 2 main things that the Titan noir doesn’t necessarily do better: Right now its RBE reduction isn’t quite as powerful, but it’s silent unlike the buzzing noise on the Valerion. Right now the DBLE feature is not as aggressive as the EBL feature on the Valerion. But, it’s much more stable and less color shifting as a benefit.
r/projectors · valerion visionmaster max or xgimi titan noir max You haven’t hung around avsforum enough if you think there aren’t people who prefer DBLE over EBL. Some have. Sure, many think it could dig deeper, but EBL gets a lot of hate for the amount of artifacts and slow/blown transitions it has.
r/projectors · C2 Ultra Vs Nebula X1 I’ve been neck deep in this research myself, so I get where you’re coming from exactly. I’ve concluded the X1, especially with its recent and future firmware updates, is objectively the better projector. It’s technically even objectively better than the Valerion Max in terms of raw contrast and lumens, but the Max’s processing and software are more refined and may lead to a better looking image. My dealbreaker may also be your dealbreaker: the X1 can’t output a pure 24hz. I have had it confirmed from other people that when you set your external devices, such as a computer, to 24hz, it is accepting that signal but internally processing it at 60hz with 3:2 pulldown conversion. It has MEMC motion interpolation to help that conversion look smooth, but I don’t want to risk “fast forward motion” soap opera type effects, which is why I’m holding off.
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r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month People already covered most topics but I want to recommend you to try calibrating the white balance in your Max PJ to avoid that extra green you see. This can be done very easily with a good result following this steps: - Take a phone or a tablet (they are usually well calibrated) and pick an image that can serve as a reference (the one you used for the photos might be good) - Set the image config in Cinema/Theater with Warm1 color (this is usually the best one) - Go to "2 point white balance" setting (or similar) and play a bit with the green and blue gains (not offsets) until the image is more similar to the reference image (since the red laser is the one usually throttling, you need to reduce blue and green, don't ever use positive gains there) Once this is set, try again to watch something to see if It looks better and there are less shifts even with EBL on.
r/projectors · Epson LS12000 vs Valerion VisonMaster Max I've been using the same standard mount for years through different projectors and it never drifted an inch, including now with the Valerion since April (First Pro2 now Max). I was able to adapt it to their tripod-like mount without problems and it didnt move either (They even sell an adapter now). If you have drift, I'm afraid the problem is not the projector but the mount... so I would say this is not really a thing to consider when deciding.
r/projectors · Epson LS12000 vs Valerion VisonMaster Max Yeah I have it ceiling mounted as every other projector I had before :) so far the Max is great. I had the Pro2 before and the Max is better of course, but maybe not double price better.
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r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month Incorrect. DLP's have a 1 inch or so light border around the image, that's just the nature of the 0,47/0,65 chip. It's not always as visible as for example keystone light border that can be much bigger in size also.
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r/hometheater · can anything beat the LS11000? I just received my Max for a home theater I’m in the process of building. Old home theater had a Panasonic pj. That was 17 years ago. Preliminary viewing, the Max looks much brighter and sharper. I’m going with a 165” screen so it can also project to a much bigger image.
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r/projectors · Unpopular Opinion: Are We Experiencing Peak Hype? My Take on the Valerion VisionMaster Max (And the Echo Chamber Review Culture) This was almost certainly written by AI. You can't convince me this was written by a human: "This means that during sustained use, the red laser dims to protect the hardware, directly impacting color balance and perceived brightness—an unacceptable defect in a "premium" machine." or "We’ve been told the Max is a “home theater game-changer,” but when you look past the marketing gloss and into the real user comments—like the one in this thread—the story changes dramatically." What is with all the random references to "real user comments on this post?" What is this even talking about? The post was written before any comments were even there? That, along with no posts or comments in 3 years until today, is bot behavior. Regardless, here is my response to the criticism in this post: * **Lumens:** No projector ever hits its advertised brightness in the most color-accurate mode. The 3,500 ISO lumens is based on the brightest possible mode, and every review I’ve seen confirms that number is accurate. If you are going to complain about the calibrated brightness on the max, then that means every projector is just as guilty. * **Dynamic Iris:** The Max doesn’t have a dynamic iris yet. That’s coming in a future update. The claims in this post saying that it has poor contrast without it are ridiculous and uninformed; this seems to be a theme in this post. * **Thermal Throttling:** I’ve seen no reputable reviews or users reporting red laser thermal throttling on the Max. That seems completely baseless. Feel free to prove me wrong on this. * **Chromatic Aberration:** I have also seen no reviews or users mention chromatic aberration being an issue. Even if it were noticeable in extreme torture tests, it doesn’t matter for normal movie watching. * **Gaming:** The 4K/60Hz input lag is 15ms, which is very good, even for competitive gaming. (which you shouldn't do on a projector anyway). Criticizing the 1080p/240Hz 4ms spec is weird since 1080p is still the most common gaming resolution, over 53 percent of Steam users play at 1080p, and all modern consoles run it fine. There are good reasons to criticise the max, such as the price, low native contrast, laser speckle, brightness pumping, and color accuracy issues during warm-up, to name a few. The criticisms in this post are just plain stupid.
r/projectors · Unpopular Opinion: Are We Experiencing Peak Hype? My Take on the Valerion VisionMaster Max (And the Echo Chamber Review Culture) I got my max this week, and it has been phenomenal. I am probably in the group that glazes on valerion a little too hard, but there is a good reason for it. Previously, I have tried projectors like the Epson 5050ub and BenQ HT2060, and I have viewed over a dozen high-end projectors in demo rooms. For me, the valerion is my perfect projector. I don't have the room or the budget to go with a huge JVC, Sony, or Epson, but I also don't feel like I need to. I don't have any RBE sensitivity, and I am working on a huge budget. Maybe I don't have a well-trained eye, but at EBL low with the IRIS dialed in, the black levels are so low that I can't imagine watching anything and thinking I would need more contrast. But contrast isn't my favorite part about the max; it is the colors. Watching movies on this projector feels like I am watching them with fresh eyes; it is an absolute joy. I hear that virtually all triple laser projectors produce colors like this, and I haven't actually seen any other triple laser projectors in person, so maybe that is the real game changer for me. Regarding this person's criticisms, they don't feel unbiased to me. There isn't any projector that matches the advertised lumens in the most color accurate mode, the max can achieve 3500 lumens in a less color accurate mode, it isn't deceptive at all. OP also doesn't even realize that dynamic iris isn't included in the max yet; that is coming in a future update. And then the throttling and chromatic aberration claims are completely baseless in my experience; I haven't seen anyone who is experiencing those issues on the Max. Doesn't feel genuine to me.
r/projectors · JVC NZ500 or (Valerion Max + LG HU710PW) I don't think any of us can give a great answer to this question to be honest. Though ProjectorJunkies did say this in his review: "As a DILA owner too i can say only this, its time to upgrade. The Valerion is better on every aspect of the picture, can not match the JVC black level of course, but its closest than ever. Of course the ANSI contrast is much much bigger on Plus 2 compare not only to JVC but every LCD projector." here is his full review: [https://www.projectorjunkies.com/valerion-visionmaster-plus-2-full-review/](https://www.projectorjunkies.com/valerion-visionmaster-plus-2-full-review/) So i'd risk it for the Valerion, but that is easy for me to say because I backed the Valerion Max.
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r/projectors · Next Chapter Review: Valerion VisionMaster Max – Specs vs Reality I got harassed on AVSF for days for saying that it’s “risky” to back the kickstarter and that the c2 ultra was a safe bet here on reddit. It’s not normal that reddit is the less toxic environment but it certainly is the case when it comes to certain brand discussions.
r/projectors · JVC NZ500 black levels are insane. Well, someone just brought theirs in last week to compare next to the NZ500 and ended up buying an NZ500, so.....
r/projectors · Epson LS12000 vs Valerion VisonMaster Max The XGIMI 20 Pro Max is an absolute beast; we just put it side by side against the Valerion Max yesterday and for over $1,000 less, it seemed like a no brainer - there are some firmware/software issues still be worked out on the XGIMI as well though, so it's certainly not without its bugs right now, but it is a light cannon with a great image that's only going to get better.
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r/projectors · Best way to mount Valerion Max I mean they have their own proprietary mount for the projector. I’d go with that.
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r/hometheater · can anything beat the LS11000? I've heard WAB screens help a lot with speckle and my max and pro 2 had/have pretty bad speckle on a silver ticket 150in white screen, I got used to it and its really only noticeable on white heavy scenes like clouds or sky shots. But it is there if you really look for it.
r/projectors · Unpopular Opinion: Are We Experiencing Peak Hype? My Take on the Valerion VisionMaster Max (And the Echo Chamber Review Culture) Yeah lol, I've complained here and on avsf on chromatic aberration in the menus, and honestly from reading the majority of the avsf thread it mostly is complaining;whether that be on shipping, slow firmware releases, or other things like focus and zoom anomalies, mixed with hopes and dreams, then testing done by various members of the community like spexman, coderguy, fenceMan, smarthomehookup.
r/projectors · Next Chapter Review: Valerion VisionMaster Max – Specs vs Reality Did you use the pro2 or see it at all? I'm curious on your rbe notes since my max should be here soon and wonder how bad you think the comparison is. I see a lot of chromatic abberation especially if i scroll fast in the projector setting menus and it looks so bad. But during regular use fine.
r/projectors · (Newbie) Looking for a nice projector and decided on an awol/valerion, but not sure if I should get Valerion vision master Pro2, Vision master Max, or AWOL Aetherion Mine is set to 5/6 for iris and its pretty great for sci fi and honestly the brightness reduction is not all that noticeable to me. But i did change it as soon as I got it so I am used to it.
r/projectors · 5050UB vs HT4550i vs visionmaster pro 2 vs horizon 20 Max Probably not lol, my max is super inconsistent but i haven't bothered messing with the firmware since i got it
r/hometheater · can anything beat the LS11000? You got a buzzing on yours even with rbe lessening mode turned off too? Cause I really like mine but that issues been driving me nuts lol
r/projectors · Next Chapter Review: Valerion VisionMaster Max – Specs vs Reality I'll take a dm if its that positive lol. But that is great to hear then. I will be in suspense for a while more since the package i thought it was arriving under was sadly another item. So I have no clue when it will arrive.
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r/projectors · Valerion Visionmaster Max bowing issue So just to be devil's advocate here a little bit. The bowing and thermal throttling is a unit-by-unit variation (which in no way excuses it). For example I went through two Pro 2 units which had a very annoying thermal throttling issue where the red laser would tank output by a huge amount when it was up to normal operating temp. Even with external fans it didn't help because operating at 35c (internal temp reported by the OSD) would be fine but then going to 36c+ would start seeing the dramatic drop on the red laser. The proj would operate at at 40-42c with the internal fans and even with a massive external fan I could only get get it down to 36-37c so would still experience the laser throttling. The throttling also affected the native contrast ratio. I posted detailed measurements on the avforums regarding this. The 3rd unit I have is absolutely perfect and performs amazingly. So I truly believe that Youtubers reviewed in good faith, but received cherry picked units which do perform very well. But unfortunately it's a bit of a lottery as an end user. If you're like me and you've got the eye and patience to deal with this kind of thing (and order from Amazon for the easy returns), you *can* get a great unit. This is in no way a total defense of Valerion, their QC is dogshit and when I emailed them about it, with hard evidence re: unit-to-unit variance their response was essentially "yeah, but it's acceptable". But good units absolutely exist... (lol).
r/projectors · Valerion Visionmaster Max bowing issue Good lord, yeah the NZ700 is a **WAY** better choice lol. It's not even a contest. I don't even consider the Max a worthwhile improvement over the Pro 2 considering the cost.
r/projectors · Sensitive to rainbow effect — JMGO N1S 4K gave me headaches, need advice (budget €2000, off-center setup) well being fair re: Valerion, the warm2 preset cycles the colours more frequently and reduces the RBE. The Max also has an RBE reduction setting which doubles the colour cycles and works really well and Valerion are updating the Pro 2 with the same feature.
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r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month It’s not due to it being DLP it’s due to it being tri-laser. The lasers produce very narrow spectral wavelength and your camera sensor is simply not accurately capturing it. The problem is this happens with humans too. You say it looked too green. That may be the case or it may just be your eyes. I also have trouble with RGB laser systems where my wife will see one thing and I’ll see another.
r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month Bonkers that that is normal behavior. Why not just design the projector around the thermal limitations?
r/projectors · Xigimi Titan vs Valerion Max He’s also admittedly not very sensitive to laser speckle or the color shifts that some see in EBL. He also doesn’t wear glasses (which can cause color fringing with tri laser light sources). Not making a judgement either way as I have yet to see the Titan but the inclusion of the .78” DMD is a pretty big deal. But I would wait on both as Xgimi seems to still be figuring out there firmware and the MAX is currently cooking itself so much so that owners are sharing direction on how to strap fans to the damn thing. Love the innovation of these Chinese firms but QC and ability to ship a complete product seems to allude them. This is traditionally not an issue for legacy brands like Epson that tend to ship a complete product day 1… Edit: But wait 5 minutes and there’s a new model: Xgimi is already teasing a Titan Noir with 10,000:1 ‘native’ contrast. That ‘native’ designator seems fishy to me but it’s dropping soon so might pay to wait for reviews.
r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month Yes l, I just saw my first Max with a fan strapped to its side. If this was any other company they’d be getting roasted but Valerion seems to have developed a fervent fan base which seems all to happy to look past these things.
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r/hometheater · Projector Choice for HDR Content - XW5000ES, NZ500, VisionMaster Pro? Do not choose the Valerian not good. RBE is a series issue on it even with the reduction mode. Ive seen it and the Max in my room from friends having brought them over and all I can see is RBE trails behind everything. If I were you, I would choose the JVC. It's the best of the bunch BY FAR, though it does sacrifice 4K120 and any type of motion handling. The dynamic tone mapping is the best out of any tone mapping onboard projectors right now. I am NOT a believer that you need DV. It's nice, but I have done side by side comparisons on LG TVs, one with DV and one with HDR10 and the differences are mostly zero and sometimes something. It's not worth the effort, complication and expense that people make it out to be.
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r/projectors · Finally! My first Laser Projector! Hisense M2 Pro I also bought this projector few weeks ago for 899 eur, While those two you mentioned go for 4-5 k. LOL
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r/gadgets · Valerion VisionMaster Max projector review: Near-perfect image quality comes at a price I got one (at kickstarter price). Really nice projector as it has a great image. At 4k for projectors, it is within the range of a projector la of that price range easily. Though at the kickstarter price, well worth it obviously. Though all projector lose out to TVs, always have and always will besides size. Though even that is changing. That is if you have the space for the size of TV. I don’t have the space for that, I do space for a drop down screen.
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r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month Turn your ebl off, enjoy the PJ. At least thats what i do.
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r/projectors · Epson LS12000 vs Valerion VisonMaster Max Yeah, it didn't show well at the Kansas Projector event. However, the guy that was responsible for it, stated he didn't have the best firmware for it and several people thought it was much better on the 2nd day after they got it dialed in better.
r/projectors · Epson LS12000 vs Valerion VisonMaster Max Man, that's a gorgeous pic!
r/projectors · Epson LS12000 vs Valerion VisonMaster Max Those are both excellent projectors. Valerion is a new startup and has had hiccups as it is gotten up to scale particularly getting the MAX out to people. They had quite the backlog, but it may be sorted by now. The RBE reduction feature has been reported to work extremely well, but introduces a high pitched whine. Also, it's hard to dial in correct colors since there is a cooling problem in the Max that causes laser throttling. The Valerion supports 3D, and also has Dynamic Tone Mapping which helps get the most out of HDR, as well as Dolbyvision. It's also a light cannon which allows for larger screens. On the whole it is a good product but has growing pains. The Epson LS12000 has been a huge hit since it was released at an excellent price point. There's no RBE because of the 3 chip design and it has a lot of happy users. There are issues with it, too, but not the kind of growing pain issues that the Valerion has. However, if you want 3D support, Epson no longer supports it. Personally, I think the LS12000 is ready to go, whereas with some work you can get the Max to work well. I would talk to ProjectionHead about what you want to accomplish and he could help you decide.
r/projectors · Epson LS12000 vs Valerion VisonMaster Max I dunno. The folks reporting it in the AVS Thread for the Max seem to indicate its not internally well braced. However, only a few have reported the issue so it could be a unit by unit issue that a lot don't have. Even if you did have it, I wouldn't consider it a deal breaker as from what I've read its pretty minor. A good mount would let you correct it if it drifts pretty easily.
r/projectors · Epson LS12000 vs Valerion VisonMaster Max The drift isn't really a mount issue, its the internals not being braced well to the case. I don't think the drift is huge, but depending on the sample, it could require recentering it at the mount since there's no horizontal lens shift.
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r/hometheater · can anything beat the LS11000? Nice! I have an Epson 5050ub. I like it, but would still like to improve the image. A lot of the features on the projector are really appealing to me, and the piece point is too.
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r/projectors · Need advice to choose between Xgimi Horizon 20/20 pro vs Valerion visionmaster pro 2 The visionmaster max is 5k€ that’s why!
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r/projectors · Valerion Visionmaster Pro 1 or Hisense C2 Ultra Iirc valerian pro 2 and Max at least will have the anti rbe feature which seems to work absolute wonders.
r/projectors · Valerion Visionmaster Pro 1 or Hisense C2 Ultra If rbe is a concern then valerion pro 2 or max, easily as they have an anti rbe feature that basically eliminates it. Why would you recommend the other one? Lol
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r/projectors · Unpopular Opinion: Are We Experiencing Peak Hype? My Take on the Valerion VisionMaster Max (And the Echo Chamber Review Culture) As a Valerion Visionmaster Max Kickstarter backer, who has had a Visionmaster Pro 2 loaner for almost 9 months, I have nothing but praise for this projector, and it continues to blow people away when they see it. The Max will be even better, and I cannot wait! For the $2K I got it for, it cannot be beat!
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r/projectors · Unpopular Opinion: Are We Experiencing Peak Hype? My Take on the Valerion VisionMaster Max (And the Echo Chamber Review Culture) After reading this, I realized that truth matters far more than marketing. I can’t understand why it’s advertised at 3,500 lumens if users are really only getting around 2,400 lumens. I genuinely hope people who’ve used it can share their real experiences—give me the truth, not unthinking hype without firsthand testing... 
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zkris28 🇬🇧🌐
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r/projectors · Epson LS12000 vs Valerion VisonMaster Max Def getting a screen. 175" is a bit to big for 10/11ft view distance so I'll probably be going 165 or 150 silver ticket. Still have to setup up the Def. Tech. surround also , but the wife lost her ability to work a couple month ago so I'm sitting in maintenance mode currently until we recuperate from that, then I'll finish the setup Yep.. blue wall without any color correction. Impressively enough it's far from a flat or straight wall too so I would say it's fairing pretty well.
r/projectors · Epson LS12000 vs Valerion VisonMaster Max Absolutely! That's a 0.6 zoom on a dirty phone camera lens, picture doesn't do the image quality justice honestly.
r/projectors · Help choosing a $5,000 projector 100$ deposit got the max, speaker system, pair of 3d glasses and a mount for 4k of you pre-ordered before November
r/projectors · Help choosing a $5,000 projector I was in the same situation as you, wanted the LS12000 but throw range just wasn't working great for my area. Ordered A VM Max because the throw range + later can put the second lense in it and maybe take it outside or something. The 3D and low input lag on game mode was a secondary plus as well. I'll be in a light controlled room shooting 135" at 10Ft throw and 11/12 foot viewing distance. I've got a pretty nice surround system to setup for it already, so I'm going to sell the included speakers and recover about 25 percent of my 4k Cost hopefully bringing the unit to a total of $3k, which I feel like for 3k the VM Max is pretty killer value.. First projector, pretty pumped to setup the theater room.
r/projectors · Epson LS12000 vs Valerion VisonMaster Max With the vm max, yeah
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Sad_Positive_4589 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Projector Recommendations Around $3-$4k I’d either jump on kickstarter and get the XGIMI Titan noir max for $3k or get a nebula x1 for $3k from soundcore new or if your a gambler Amazon has some refurbished for $1800 . Couldn’t tell you why they’re refurbished. I own the visionmaster max , nebula x1 pro and they both look really good , hopefully they’ll outlast the extended warranty from purchasing early on kickstarter but I do believe their rated for 25k hours of use . Currently waiting on the aetherion max ( ust version of the visionmaster max basically ) , and I’m also purchasing the Titan noir max as soon as the kickstarter ends in about three weeks. Also factor in the price of a screen that helps minimize laser speckle it’s an issue with laser projectors but not a big issue with the right screen .
r/projectors · Upgraded from JMGO N1S Ultra to Valerion Visionmaster Max. I have a visionmaster max also , currently using an elite screens matte white 1.1 screen . I’ll be replacing it with an Grey ALR screen with speckle reduction. I think it will help the contrast considerably from what I’ve seen . Another thing about the max that I’m waiting on is the activation of the dynamic iris from the manual iris . That should also help with contrast from scene to scene . Try a different screen and wait on the firmware update for the iris and I’m sure you’ll be even more happy with the max .
r/projectors · Valerion VisionMaster Max or Nebula X1 Pro Probably going to end up being down to price at the end of the day . The x1 is currently about $1500 less than the visionmaster max . I own both and they’re pretty much neck and neck . The nebula’s iris is dynamic , while we are still waiting on valerion to make the max’s iris dynamic as promised from its introduction. There are YouTube video reviews comparing the two and they’re very comparable to each other. The $2500 nebula price compared to the $4000 for the valerion will be your biggest decision , as to if the max is worth the price difference.
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Funny_Chap 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · valerion visionmaster max or xgimi titan noir max A big youtuber reviewer (projector reviews [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncoB3weqwS4&t=1453s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncoB3weqwS4&t=1453s) ) said that the Noir max at 2.0 zoom is not even across the screen, 1.5x is where the picture is even which makes it the same as the Valerion Max with 1.5x zoom.
r/projectors · valerion visionmaster max or xgimi titan noir max A big youtuber reviewer (projector reviews [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncoB3weqwS4&t=1453s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncoB3weqwS4&t=1453s) ) said that the Noir max at 2.0 zoom is not even across the screen, 1.5x is where the picture is even which makes it the same as the Valerion Max with 1.5x zoom.
r/projectors · JVC NZ500 or (Valerion Max + LG HU710PW) The new Valerion Max has lens shift, and even better native contrast.
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MJL1923 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · valerion visionmaster max or xgimi titan noir max For me was simple, I am very susceptible to RBE. Not sure I would be able to watch if not for reduction magic of Max
r/projectors · Valerion 120“ ALR Fresnel vs. Cinegrey 5D? As an owner of Valerion max and a Valerion fresnel I can tell that daywatching experience is good almost great but it has laser speckle pretty bad. At night, speckle is much less noticeable, and rarely bothers me. Also, the screen is bright, very bright. The sun, lightbulb, flash of light, etc actually like in real life, super bright and immersive 😎 But honestly, I would go to something that doesn’t have speckle.
r/projectors · Help me choose my first projector – AWOL Aetherion Max vs Hisense Vidda C3 Ultra Laser speckle is quite visible during day and noticeable at night. TV is $2k , projector plus screen $6k. Not sure if the price justifies 44% bigger screen vs 100inch. Takes space and I have to remind kids to be careful and not to look into projector laser.
r/projectors · Help me choose my first projector – AWOL Aetherion Max vs Hisense Vidda C3 Ultra If you are okay with 100” screen, get microLED TV. I have Valerion Max with 120” screen. I kind of regret not just buying the TV.
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imperfectdiscipline 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · (Newbie) Looking for a nice projector and decided on an awol/valerion, but not sure if I should get Valerion vision master Pro2, Vision master Max, or AWOL Aetherion EDIT: I think I’m going to go with the Pro2. The max looks nice, but I saw some side by sides done by a non-paid (as far as I could tell) YouTube reviewer who was pretty honest in saying the image quality is almost exactly the same between the two IMO. The only difference I could notice, is that the max did have better and more detailed blacks, but that was it, idk if that’s what contrast means essentially but the “contrast” between colors like red->green or purple->orange etc (idk just examples) was essentially the same from what I could see, it was only when there were shadows or increased vs decreased darkness in areas that I actually saw a difference. And even then, it was very subtle in most cases from what I saw. They had a dedicated home theater setup, but the walls did seem to be cream colored. In the first video the projected image size between the pro2 and the max was different so a commenter said that the max’s performance upgrades would be much more noticeable with the same screen size/throw distance, so the YouTuber did exactly that and even after doing that it looked exactly the same and I personally couldn’t tell a difference. The only thing I could think which would increase the perceived difference between the two would be if he had painted walls black instead of cream, that could make the max look better. But without that dedicated setup, while there is still a visual difference and the max looks “better”, to me personally the image quality was so similar I can’t really justify getting the max. TBH it’s almost like if I went to the store and they had two identical projectors with identical images displayed, and then the salesman goes “actually look here at the shadows, see how it’s a bit nicer here and there, that’s the $1,500 upgrade you’re paying for” and I’d be like “oh yeah huh I do notice that, it is a bit better I guess”, but like for all intents and purposes for me personally they’re the same and no way would I spend more for that. Now if it’s a dedicated theater, then it might be different, but for me I don’t have that and the pro2 looks perfect for me. I was considering the aetherion on kickstarter, since I’d be getting “$5,000 value” for $2k for backing early, but I decided against it. The main reason I want a projector tbh is for dem HUGE projected images onto my wall, I think currently mine is doing like 150 inches diagonally onto the wall or bigger, idk. I’m a newbie but just learned for the UST ones, having to be exact with projectors placement is no issue, but the screen placement needs to be exact as well, and what I didn’t consider is that if there are any bumps or deviations from being totally flat then it’ll give issues. There also may be issues with the edges of it as well, they may have fixed that but idk. I would have to purchase a 150 inch to 200 inch screen with the aetherion to get it to do what I’d want, which I don’t even know how much that would cost. There’s also the issue of delays etc, tbh for me personally it’s not worth it because I’m just going to be projecting onto my grayish-green wall (which is actually really well painted lmao and does have a gray color which idk but I think goes good with my current projector) until I can buy a normal projector screen. TL;DR: I think I’m going with Pro2, Max isn’t worth it without completely repainting my room, I considered the aetherion but needing to purchase a 150+ inch screen on top of the $2k projector isn’t feasible for me right now and I think I prefer the long throw format for right now. Thank you to everybody who commented!!
r/projectors · (Newbie) Looking for a nice projector and decided on an awol/valerion, but not sure if I should get Valerion vision master Pro2, Vision master Max, or AWOL Aetherion Thanks 🙏 I’ll look into it for sure. I ended up already deciding that I’d get the pro2 instead of their visionmaster max or the aetherion, because the difference between the pro2 and the max screens was barely noticeable to me imo (the max did have better blacks and shadows but it was very subtle and not worth the extra money for me), and for the aetherion I didn’t want to go with an UST for a couple different reasons. The titan looks good, definitely better blacks than the aetherion, tbh the actual picture quality looks very very similar to me, I think the noir’s blacks look really good and dark but the picture quality itself was super similar to me tbh. I’ll look into it more, I’m a bit unfamiliar with kickstarter (I’ve used it before but I prefer Amazon due to easy returns in case of an issue and shipping estimates etc) but I’ll keep the noir in mind for sure, thanks!!
r/projectors · (Newbie) Looking for a nice projector and decided on an awol/valerion, but not sure if I should get Valerion vision master Pro2, Vision master Max, or AWOL Aetherion Thanks 🙏 so I decided against the Max and the UST’s and I’m going with a pro2 I think. So the max was kinda out of my budget by a little ways already, I was just considering it because if I’m already spending 2k then I didn’t want to regret spending so much and missing out on a good experience. The UST tbh I don’t know that much about them but I think long throw would be better. I was looking at the aetherion but I didn’t want to spend $2k, wait until may at the earliest, then also have to buy a 150-200 inch screen for it, and I learned with the short throws you absolutely have to buy a screen and level it perfectly etc. I know this might sound like putting ketchup on a $500 steak here lmao but I’m just going to be projecting onto my wall until I buy a projector screen eventually. I think with the pro2 on sale rn that’ll be good enough so that I can be wow’d by the image and when I’m ready I’ll get a nice screen etc. and you were right with my room’s paint especially the max and the pro2 are identical, and with just using my wall for rn it’s definitely not worth the max
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dek1019 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · (Newbie) Looking for a nice projector and decided on an awol/valerion, but not sure if I should get Valerion vision master Pro2, Vision master Max, or AWOL Aetherion Man, going from a $100 Voplls to a Valerion Pro2 is going to blow your mind. I made a similar jump and I still remember the first time I watched a dark scene and actually saw details instead of grey mush. For your setup, with that massive wall space (looks like you could easily do 150 inches), I'd go long-throw over UST. The Pro2 or Max will give you way more flexibility with placement. USTs are great for people who can't ceiling mount or have limited depth, but you've got space to work with. Between Pro2 and Max, at that discount, Pro2 is the better value. The Max is nicer but not $500+ nicer unless you really need the extra brightness. I [compared all the top projectors](https://medium.com/@dejan-k/projector-vs-100-inch-tv-2026-d0b6e18c3c14) including Pro 2, if you want more detail. But honestly, grab that Pro2 deal and use the savings for a decent screen or sound. You're going to be happy.
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DefaultStatus 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · (Newbie) Looking for a nice projector and decided on an awol/valerion, but not sure if I should get Valerion vision master Pro2, Vision master Max, or AWOL Aetherion just get the pro2, no need to spend so much extra for not much value when you couldve spent that on upgrading your theater room. I have the pro2 and have zero complaints, I thought about getting the max but there's literally no need when the pro2 is so capable
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Clark_Fellanger 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Quick question regarding Valerion Visionmaster Max Valerion just cancelled their long throw custom lens a few days ago. That combined with the innumerable product flaws and retconning the MVP (changing what they say the product is capable of) makes this tough to recommend. I would recommend the LS12000 if you can find it for around $4k. I was able to get the demo model from my dealer with a full 3 year warranty for that price, never really looked back.
r/projectors · Valerion Visionmaster Max bowing issue Yep, I saw this one too and I think Peter helped bury it. Part of this fun consumer protection data analytics stuff is keeping a log of how the marketing and promotional material changes over time, very telling as to what the company is up to and intentions. After the uncoated silver iris was discovered, the marketing around the original black iris got scrubbed overnight (huge gaslighting by retconning key selling features) They use Peter to deflate, deflect, and defend. In this case we have Deflection. Peter gets used to acknowledge the issue, then attempt to cast doubt as to whether silver vs dull black coating even affects the contrast when used inside of an optical body. Cognitive dissonance coors light to chug on.
r/projectors · Quick question regarding Valerion Visionmaster Max Lol or is it 3000 lumens? The world may never know just like the licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop https://preview.redd.it/ld10grj0tilg1.jpeg?width=1781&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c150cf48ef5011995a762be3954787cc03110a52
r/projectors · Quick question regarding Valerion Visionmaster Max AWOL and Valerion are the same company https://awolvision.com/pages/awolvision-valerion Epson already sued the parent company before AWOL created Valerion Hasn't the Max already been caught in this regard being 3000 lumens instead of 3500? Or does that not count after the 3d printed fan add on? The website lists both
r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month Peter, Rob, Bob, all shills. I am an active member too and Bob banned me from my own Epson ls12000 thread for pointing out him actively driving Epson customers away from the product and towards the Valerion, without any substance, claiming he only owns an old iPhone 7 and cant take pictures, yet lives in a >$500k home he had built with $10k worth of projectors. Come on man. Cognitive dissonance craycray. Basically, the way I see it, this is the downfall of AVS. If you cant have unbiased moderation, what's the point of a forum? Its a DLP fan club if the influence is paid for. This problem has existed in the lower cost tier segments for projection but Hisense/Valerion has kicked it up a notch for sure with their "$5 billion 5 years" capex promise for roi. Problem is Hisense gear is really hard to move, nobody really actually wants it. The other problem is this is all COTS parts from TI. The whole valerion unit is basically a $1000 evm you can buy direct from TI with a fancy shell and an OS and an iris put on it. Not exactly a true vertically integrated product, more like a lego brick. [https://www.ti.com/lit/ug/dlpu105a/dlpu105a.pdf?ts=1771170352381](https://www.ti.com/lit/ug/dlpu105a/dlpu105a.pdf?ts=1771170352381) https://preview.redd.it/33h3a58vn4kg1.jpeg?width=1575&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=690fddab876dd385934f515358ff61d3c27a5a9b
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OkInstance6854 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion Visionmaster Max bowing issue It's similar to the hubble telescope where your device was basically born with astigmatism at its edges, it's an optical block flaw. You aren't losing pixels, they're just going to be ever so slightly distorted. Good way to check would be to project an extremely tight grid pattern and then stand back and see if you can follow where the distortion occurs. It's probably not uniform, likely towards the edges 2/3rd the way out. Just a wild guess. I would send it back as you aren't the first with this documented flaw, and for nearly used car money it's laughable to get that quality out of a television product. I think I saw your post on AVS and they just sort of ignored you and kept on with their calibration discussion. I think they do that so the thread always stays relevant. Sorry for your luck but I would get a new one at least.
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neel1983 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion Vision Master pro 2- never fails to impress Laser 5 equivalent in max? That's the highest brightness it can offer for such a significant inflation in price? Thank God i went for the pro 2
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JustPath3874 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Epson 6050UB or Valerion VisionMaster Pro2 in 2026 I would only consider the Epson if you have a video processor, otherwise the Valerion Max will far exceed the image as you transition between SDR, HDR and it supports Dolby Vision. Having said that, I have a 6050ub with a video processor that solves those issues, so I prefer the increase in contrast and better lens options for placement and adjustments. I don't think you can go wrong with either. I would love to see a shootout with these with and without a video processor. My 6050ub without it was a constant frustration and disappointment unless I ran strictly in SDR mode.
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Slipknot31286sic6 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Upgraded from JMGO N1S Ultra to Valerion Visionmaster Max. Crazy you spent that much and didn't get an Epson or jvc. 🫣
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cat_with_problems 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month thanks for the link. Cinema mode starts out by having this weird motion smoothing effect turned on as standard, which I think already tells you how much you're supposed to take it seriously. From my experience, filmmaker mode on TVs is what they usually call the neutral mode without any motion or colour fuckery. but I will look at cinema as well, it just looks yellow on my unit so I didn't even bother with it.
r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month why cinema and not filmmaker mode? Cinema mode fucks with the colours, filmmaker mode is neutral. And yes, warm1 is the most accurate colour profile for sure.
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STRYED0R 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month Triple laser often has a terrible red hue on photo but that's not the issue, that's far from what you see from your own eyes IRL. Color accuracy should be better on the Valerion, on paper and IRL. I think it all boils down to the screen. A white screen would probably change your results. [https://www.mondoprojos.fr/2025/09/18/test-valerion-max/](https://www.mondoprojos.fr/2025/09/18/test-valerion-max/) (google translate) Not an expert though, but did drool on this review :) LS1 1000 is no joke for a comparison.
r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month Filckering is not acceptable.
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lucasnegrao 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month thank you. this is a good analysis although i’d like to see some more pictures - but valerion image seems consistent to every photo of its projection i’ve seen - huge color shift, but i’d like to get my hands in one of those to calibrate and see how far ir gets, specs are good if not lies.
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pricha12 🇬🇧🌐
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r/projectors · Epson LS12000 vs Valerion VisonMaster Max Yeah. That’s what I’m starting to discover. Most if not all ALR seem likely to produce speckle with triple laser projectors. Thanks for the feedback.
r/hometheater · can anything beat the LS11000? Awesome. Sounds very similar to my situation right now. Have it narrowed down to either the Max or an LS12000. My biggest worry is Max will be more finicky with ALR screens (laser speckle) and therefore not as good in lit environments watching sports. Sounds like you believe the Max does ok there? What screen do you have?
r/projectors · Epson LS12000 vs Valerion VisonMaster Max So you have the Max ceiling mounted? How do you like it? What screen do you use? I’m debating between this and the LS12000 too mostly coming down to what I feel could perform in ambient lighting. Worried about laser speckle and the Max if I use an ALR
r/hometheater · can anything beat the LS11000? Jeez. Even on a white screen? I hadn't considered that level of extreme. I figured it was only with ALR.
r/projectors · Advice on buying a projector Cool thanks for the guidance. I assume that’s based on “best bang for buck” then? I feel like people are all over the max comparing it to JVC and the like for a fraction of the cost. But understood ls11000 is still quite cheaper. How much is it now? Max is $4k at this point, not bad compared to ls12000 at $6k.
r/projectors · Advice on buying a projector How do you feel about the Valerion 2 or Max? Thehookup has both crushing even the ls12000
r/projectors · Epson LS12000 vs Valerion VisonMaster Max Damn. That’s just on a blue wall? Looks great. No desire for a screen?
r/projectors · Epson LS12000 vs Valerion VisonMaster Max That's awesome. Jealous!
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Few_Calligrapher2662 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Advice on buying a projector The max is good, don't like the pro 2. I've seen both the Pro 2 and the LS12000, and both on default settings, the LS12000 destroys the pro 2. I like the Hookup, but I don't like the screens he uses, because it doesn't show the true sharpness and black level. I would choose the LS11000 over the 12000 AND the Max. The LS11000, Horizon 20 max, and refurb HT4550i are all projectors I would choose over any of these. Maybe just me, but I would buy all these over the max.
r/projectors · Epson LS12000 vs Valerion VisonMaster Max Oh trust me it does. I spent an extra 350 for a chief rpmau due to drift. These companies don't make scam projectors, and when they say the projectors have "dolby vision" or "imax enhanced" it's true they do have it, but only the licensing, and it looks like shit compared to good HDR 10+ If it really was THAT groundbreaking, then companies like Epson and Benq would've jumped to it. Buy a refurb from [projectorscreen.com](http://projectorscreen.com) and talk to u/ProjectionHead and he will hook you up. Refurbs literally have 0 hours on the lamp, so it will basically be brand new. Dedicated theater has NOTHING to do with lens shift. Horizontal lens shift became so useful to me that now I won't buy a projector with out it. At least for me, 2k (0k with refurb) is 1000% worth it for peace of mind, a company who's been in the biz long, way better optics, better cooling, motorized lens, motorized lens shift/focus/zoom, and let's not forget - standard mounting points that let you pair it with the best mount of all time - the chief RPMAU. Will also be much quieter.
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NemeanMiniLion 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Epson LS12000 vs Valerion VisonMaster Max I absolutely love my Max. I haven't seen the Epson in person so I can't really comment on it. For the price, it's going to be really hard to beat the max.
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CrabPrimary2911 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · 4k projector for under 6k I just got my Valerion Max all setup and the picture is amazing in my opinion. The hard part about choosing any projector is that the quality is all relative to what you’ve seen before. What I mean by this is how does the image look to you compared to other projectors you have seen. If you put the Valerion Max directly next to the JVC or Sony you’d see difference for sure I assume. If you have never seen those projectors and just see the Max against your previous projector I think you’ll see a massive improvement. I say all that because my Max compared to my LG HU810PW is a pretty big jump up in quality so I am extremely happy with it. The image is noticeably sharper and clearer, the colors pop WAY more and the black levels are much improved. Hopefully that all makes sense, main takeaway is I went from a 5 year old dual laser 4k projector to the Valerion Max and it is 100% worth it for me. Hope that helps!
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Ok_Economist_9876 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · 4k projector for under 6k I just upgraded to valerion max. It's worth it. Even the pro version is great.
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fullsaildan 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Is the VisionMaster Pro 2 right for me? There are really good options in the Valerion price point. Any of them are solid choices, but whether the Valerion is worth a few hundred extra is tough these days. The horizon 20 didn’t exist when I purchased mine and I’d probably give it a hard look these days. I’d say you really don’t need the Max. I own several pro 2s and have seen the Max in person. I didnt see a large enough performance difference to justify the price jump. Screen wise I’m partial to ceiling mounted for stability, keeping everything dialed in, and more flexibility in material choice. But again, very much a user preference. Don’t cheap out on screens, it’s equally as impactful as the projector on image quality in my opinion.
r/projectors · Valerion Max Launch Value I’m pretty pro Valerion, I own several, and I just don’t see enough value difference between the pro 2 and the max to justify the price. You can get the pro2 on sale frequently for cheaper and it’d be my pick hands down. All the goodies they are offering in this promo are fine but not the best. I feel like the max was created to justify the price of the Pro 2.
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tehw4nderer 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Unpopular Opinion: Are We Experiencing Peak Hype? My Take on the Valerion VisionMaster Max (And the Echo Chamber Review Culture) Dangbei S7 Ultra Max. I have one and it's great. Much brighter than the Max at equivalent contrast.
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The_Hook_Up 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Best $2k-$3k lifestyle projector late 2025 Max is the only one that has the RBE reduction right now, but my understanding is that there are plans to bring it to the Pro 2, but no official dates on that yet. If the RBE reduction feature is important to you then you should go with the Max or Pro2. If RBE is typically not a problem for you neither the Horizon 20 Max nor Horizon 20 Pro exhibit above average RBE and I think would be a better fit for your space.
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DrNickAtlas 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Best $2k-$3k lifestyle projector late 2025 Yes, currently looking for a drop down screen that will fit and recognize it ought to be a good one. I’m aware all-in this will be a $4-5k investment to get it right, just don’t want to get it wrong… seems like lots of good options out there with a few trade offs and no really bad choices. Glad you like the Pro 2. Any issues with RBE? I’ve read that the Max eliminates this but it’s $4k…
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HOVER_HATER 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion Max Launch Value In that case it's just the better contrast and stuff like lense shift for now (hopefully valerion fixes the brightness).
r/projectors · Valerion Max Launch Value Max will have a decent brightness bump but a masive contrast increase, so if you want the best possible contrast and combined with high brightness get the max. Pro 2 will give you good brightness with ok'ish contrast so get it if you only need the brightness and want to save the cash, if you want the best contrast and don't need the best brightness i would look at Nexigo aurora mk II pro which will have Max level contrast for around 2k cheaper.
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OutsidePerfect5640 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Next Chapter Review: Valerion VisionMaster Max – Specs vs Reality Thanks for sharing your experience. I’m coming from an epson 5040ub and my biggest worry is the RBE. Still deciding between the Max and a ls11000, but reviews like this help build confidence in the Max. Enjoy!
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CrazyDesiTexan 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Testing out Xgimi Horizon 20 Max, 5700 lumens Do we assume that no news means bad news? I read on Valerion group that one user saying that Horizon 20 software is buggy at this point and Valerion Max would beat it anytime. For me, Valerion Max is out of budget. I need both horizontal and vertical lens shift and so I am eagerly waiting for reviews on Horizon 20 Pro or Max to make the preorder 😔
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deejaystu1 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · What would be the best 4k projector for under $4000 for this room? Isn't the Valerion Max a big jump in technology for the money/value? I feel like if OP is shopping in the 4k-5k range the Max is a significantly better value/dollar.
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vgnshrj 🇬🇧🌐
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r/projectors · Epson 12000B still the king of Dark room PJ choice in 2024? Check out Valerion if you haven’t already. If you can work with short throw, it might be a solid alternative for you. Their second highest offering Pro 2 compares well with 5050 and even JVC. The top offering Max will start shipping only in May, but it has vertical lens shift and dynamic iris.
r/projectors · Valerion Max vs Epson LS11000 I’m looking for a 110” projection for both daytime with little ambient light (with curtains closed) and for the night. Valerion has the kickstarter price close to €2000 Does LS12000 has that filter you were saying?
r/projectors · JVC NZ500 or (Valerion Max + LG HU710PW) That’s a good point
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DadFrikazoyde 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion VisionMaster Max or epson ls11000 For the price and specs, believe you made a great deal! https://valerion-visionmaster-cinematic-grade.kckb.me/valerion-projector
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ChrisOz 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion VisionMaster Max or epson ls11000 I understand the general enthusiasm and the Kickstarter looks like a good deal. Personally, I am pretty skeptical about Kickstarters in general, particularly when an existing company uses one. If Valerion needed the Kickstarter to help fund the development of the Max that would be a little concerning. It would means they are operating on a razor thin margin. This would likely affect everything from it capacity to develop the product, continue to refine it and then offer long term support. It seems like a lot of the Valerion's performance comes from clever software like EBL and Tone Mapping.. It seems to be otherwise using using standard industry components like the DLP chip, processor and light engine. Which is good as it reduces the risks. Valerian it seems they are a sub-brand for AWOL which means they likely didn't actually need the money and are using Kickstarter for marketing and hype. I am just a little concerned that people are getting overhyped and don't realise it isn't a JVC killer. Bang for buck it may be and people will enjoy their units, but it is still too early to declare the old guard is dead.
r/projectors · Valerion VisionMaster Max or epson ls11000 I am not accursing Valerion of doing this but they could have send out goldern samples. The early reviewers in there excitement could have also overlooked issues that become apparant later. There is also a risk that Valerion may have difficulty maintaining quality when they go in to mass production. There could also be issues that develop after an extended use. I am not saying any of these things have or will happen, but this is always inherent risks with any Kickstarter purchase and early adopting new products in general. This is the case even where the firm has a good reputation. Just look at the current reputation of Optima projectors. As you have noted they are still working on getting the iris implementation done so there is still risk that it may not full deliver on what they want. Having said all of this, the kickstarter looks like a reasonable bet and as a minimum they should be expected to largely deliver what they have promised. It is just important not to get over hyped for a product until it is in your hands and there has been some longer term testing.
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john-treasure-jones 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · JVC NZ500 or (Valerion Max + LG HU710PW) Projectors don’t generally require routine servicing. In the case of a laser projector, you might only need to replace an air filter occasionally. However, like any complex piece of technology there is the potential that some kind of issue might pop up like a board component failure or difficulty with one of the few moving parts like the lens servo’s or fans. With a medium to high end products from a major electronics manufacturer, there will be a service process and spare parts to deal with failures. Products from startup outfits are built on a disposable model - If a failure occurs during the warranty period, the unit just gets replaced. Once the warranty is over, you’re probably one failure from it becoming e-waste.
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JulesPeace 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion Vision Master Max - new projector from IFA The Kickstarter Campaign starts the day after tomorrow and for all backers the shipping costs (including Taxes!) are super low! https://preview.redd.it/b837b8v4zktd1.jpeg?width=1062&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=211aac30a4f7fc7473e7ce1720ef696de82af6ce
r/projectors · Valerion Vision Master Max - new projector from IFA Update: After preordering I was invited to join a closed preorder facebook group. The AWOL / Valerion staff is actively answering questions there. I.e. that the Vision Master Max is using an enhanced version based on AWOL LTV-3500 pro MEMC. They are very honest there, i.e. that the native contrast is >2k but with EBL (which will hopefully perform and got praised by IFA visitors) perceived as 15000:1 and they are currently still working on the alrithm for the lens shift. Here is one of the many answers in that group: "The transitional lens shift projectors typically have manual adjustments, no motorized control, and lack features like auto projection, with the lens left exposed without extra protection. Valerion is proud to be the first in the home theater field to bring innovations such as motorized lens shift, an external lens protective cover, and an auto projection feature. These advancements require significant algorithm work to overcome the complex challenges that arise with lens position changes.Our team has put a great deal of effort into evaluating and perfecting the new lens system design for the VisionMaster Max. Right now, we are refining the tooling process, which requires additional time to ensure every aspect of the design matures into something truly special."
r/projectors · Buying advice for Epson LS 12000 Importing from Japan is involving Tax stuff, yes. For Germany ot would be 15%. I also wanted to buy a ls12000b and ended up with a Valerion VisionMaster Max shipping in May. Pretty sure I made the better deal.
r/projectors · Valerion Vision Master Max - new projector from IFA Max has Vertical lens-shift & a dynamic Iris. The latter should increase the contrast even more than EBL already does, but they still work on the algorithms that EBL and dynamic iris don't interfere each other.
r/projectors · Valerion Vision Master Max - new projector from IFA Seen a first video from IFA convention 8 think comparing the black level. Can't upload it on reddit. Seems also promising. I'll take a screenshot
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fantana20 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion VisionMaster Max Anti-RBE, how bad is the noise? Not noticed the projector once during movies and I am in a small room for such a large device. Only sit around 6 or 7ft from the projector. What I would say is I have to have warm 1 on as I see the rainbows pretty badly on every other mode. And right now the colour is a bit off in that mode. They are apparently fixing with the next firmware update.
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eluxvo 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion VisionMaster Max Anti-RBE, how bad is the noise? From the reviews I've read the valerion has better anti rbe, and the xgimi has image artifacts with anti rbe on.
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Hot-Government-5796 🇬🇧
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r/hometheater · Purchasing First Home Projector and Completely Overwhelmed I’ve got the Valerion and love it. Haven’t seen the noir but it looks great. Bang for the buck I haven’t seen something more capable.
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Warhead-777111 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion VisionMaster Max or Nebula X1 Pro Right, that is a shame. Also chasing performance based on future promised software updates isn't a great plan for buyers but they do it anyway.
r/projectors · HT - XW5000ES vs. NZ500 vs. VisionMaster Max I recently moved on from the C2 Ultra (lifestyle) which is incredible by the way to the JVC NZ700 RS2200 because the JVC is the one trick pony I need in my darkened room. Features wise the Hisense delivers a lot more in a mixed lighting environment, and costs far less. It's truly amazing, but I have a darkened room and was never satisfied with the one single reason I own a projector - watching movies. The tech involved in the JVC is 100% focused on that one thing, in a darkened room. One of these days somebody like Hisense is going to come along and compete, but it's easier for them and addresses a much larger market to just keep basing their designs on TI chips that aren't going to deliver the black end of contrast (while of course killing JVC on lumens output). I do find the Max interesting as it has an iris which definitely helps on a native contrast level. Overall though you can see they are relying on software far more heavily than JVC or Sony to still not achieve their depth. The reports of color temperature shifts while EBL does heavy lifting always turned me off. If black levels and shadow detail matter to you a lot (among other things of course, there is a richness to the JVC that you can't just describe on a forum) it seems an easy choice.
r/projectors · Projector choice Not on brightness and gaming they arent
r/projectors · Projector choice Max is interesting vs the JVC on the level that it also has iris control. That is at least one native hardware feature that stands out, otherwise Valerion does seem very software heavy when it comes to black levels.
r/projectors · Projector choice If you want deep blacks due to insane native contrast then JVC should be the obvious choice. I am running an NZ700 on a 1.3 gain matte white 150" screen in a darkened room, 18 feet from lens to screen mounting distance. It has higher lumens than NZ500 but I am achieving SDR 15 fL standard with laser at 74/100 with aperture at -7. HDR wide open the highest it seems to hit in my setup is over 24 fL but I still prefer 74/100 and it pops very nicely without hitting recommended fL standards. I assume that Valerion at 3500 lumens can more easily nail it on the brightness. I moved from a Hisense C2 Ultra and loved that projector except it is really more appropriate for ambient lighting or people who don't care that blacks are charcoal grey. Moving to native 4k is a more cinematic, smooth image. No rainbow effect or laser speckle was another huge plus for me.
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bon-bon 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Help for first projector purchase I would strongly recommend investing in a screen. An entry level unit projecting onto a screen will usually outperform a mid tier unit projecting onto an untreated wall. You’ll want a motorized drop down screen with tab tensioning. The tab tensioning is important for avoiding ripples in your screen down the line. Regarding your choice of unit: the Titan noir Kickstarter is currently the best deal in projectors. At $3k it outperforms the Valerion Max, which retails for a couple grand more. I believe that you have until 15 June to order from the Kickstarter. For a less expensive option I’d investigate a secondhand or discounted Valerion Pro2. That unit is also tri-laser and can often be found at a discount as Valerion sent many out to buyers of the Max to use while they waited for the company to finish the Max’s manufacturing. The Max has now been released so there are a number of barely used secondhand Pro2s on the market. If you’re uncomfortable buying secondhand (or can’t find a well priced Pro2) you might also investigate the Nexigo TriVision Ultra, the Xgimi Horizon 20, or the Valerion Streammaster, all of which use laser or hybrid-laser light sources for brightness and gamut that often significantly outperform comparably priced units that use lamp or LED light sources. The Nexigo uses a hybrid laser-LED light source, which is a worse performer than pure laser but avoids the speckling issue inherent to current laser tech to which some users are sensitive. You should also consider whether or not your mount point would benefit from a unit with optical zoom or lens shift. A ceiling mounted projector must mount to your joists (unless you live in an apartment with concrete framing). Depending on where your joists are vis a vis your projection area you might need zoom in order to hit the size at which you’re aiming or lens shift in order to hit your target area with minimal digital keystone, which cuts your resolution if used. Many entry level units lack those features.
r/projectors · valerion visionmaster max or xgimi titan noir max You have the problem right: the Noir Max is better spec’d on paper, though Valerion’s DBE is in a league of its own and does a lot to close the (narrow, all things considered) gap. Whether the IQ improvements are worth the wait and cost vs the (very capable) projector you have now is a question that only you can answer, unfortunately. I use a Valerion Pro2 and personally don’t notice the color/brightness shifting issues that early adaptors wrote up—I suspect they’ve been fixed in firmware, though it’s possible that I’m just not that sensitive to them. Overall the Valerion is the best looking home projector I’ve ever experienced, especially given its sub-$3k price point. Users here are very picky and often have big budgets but you’ll be thrilled with the Max if you decide to keep it. Don’t let forum-induced upgradeitis ruin your enjoyment of this golden age of projectors. There will always be something better around the corner. Personally the wait and cost for the Xgimi weren’t worth it for me—the Valerion already gets bright enough to hurt my eyes and its gamut massively betters my old OLED. If you want to wait and spend on the Xgimi, though, you’ll also enjoy it.
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abracadabraprjktr 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Projector Recommendations Around $3-$4k I've had the valerion max for 6 months and am happy with it. I got it for the Kickstarter price of 2500. It's higher now but frequently gets discounted or bundled.
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elmalloc 🇬🇧🌐
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r/projectors · valerion visionmaster max or xgimi titan noir max you may sale it to me for 2K! I need another valerion.
r/projectors · valerion visionmaster max or xgimi titan noir max EBL makes the Valerion though, having bunch of lumens and not good black control is not what many high end enthusiasts look for (hence why everyone chases JVC). It is only superior if DBLE is better than EBL and I have sen nobody say it yet, they all say what you said. Disregarded IMO. When you see Valerion EBL in action you see the power of Valerion Visionmaster. I really want TNM to fix their stuff so we can buy it before KS ends.
r/projectors · valerion visionmaster max or xgimi titan noir max Every image I see of TNM seems uncalbrated. I wish someone did MADVR test with it, the visionmaster max looks like it has better EBL implementation and that's what makes the Valerion the kliler projector IMO. XGIMI is all about lumens but I have not seen anyone say it is better blacks than Valerion.
r/projectors · valerion visionmaster max or xgimi titan noir max You may sale it to me for $2250!
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hellogoodmorning2020 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · valerion visionmaster max or xgimi titan noir max Thanks. I still have the max in the box and am trying to decide if I should keep it or get the Noir instead... From what I read, max seems better with colour accuracy and contrast, whereas Noir excels in brightness.
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RangeReader 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Motorised screen for Valerion Visionmaster Max So an update. Went for the Wupro and very glad I did. They were able to tailor the drop for me, which was very helpful. Straightforward installation and the remote works great. Drop is also adjustable. Haven't played with Valerion settings much but impressed with the out of the box settings. https://preview.redd.it/xhttpvvr6mwg1.jpeg?width=4096&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=418f0bf5077852fa52c0958de53a5bbcac21e4fc
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Ok_Science_3238 🇬🇧
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r/hometheater · Projector advice for new home theatre - Valerion VisionMater Max and other options I am also eyeing valerion max. If you don't need the vertical lens shift, get the pro, save 2k and change As far as the concerns you listed, I believe the max has a 2yr warranty, so there's that. Some credit cards double warranty, so a full 4 years. If you don't game you could go for epsons and the like.
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73DodgeDart 🇬🇧
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r/hometheater · Projector advice for new home theatre - Valerion VisionMater Max and other options I did have a problem with it turning off on its own while watching content. There is a known fault with their older power supplies that causes them to overheat and cut the power. I communicated this with Valerion through their WhatsApp and email and they sent me a new power supply. So far for the last three weeks it has been working fine and not shutting off.
r/hometheater · Projector advice for new home theatre - Valerion VisionMater Max and other options For a large screen and HDR you are going to want as many lumens as you can get. The Valerion is super bright and sharp. The black levels are decent for a DLP projector and the laser light source is incredibly convenient when you’ve lived with bulb based projectors for so long. I have both the Valerion Visionmaster Max and an older JVC RS400. While I still prefer the black levels and the cinematic feel of the JVC image, everything else is just better on the Valerion. I think it has incredible value for the money and it still has 3D. I don’t think you can go wrong with it but I have not seen the other projectors on your list.
r/projectors · Projector for 5m throw distance to 110 inch screen You could get a used Epson LS12000 although I’m not sure what the used projector market is like in Australia. You could also get the Valerion Visionmaster Max with the additional long throw lens.
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Fabulous_Respond2047 🇬🇧
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r/hometheater · Projector advice for new home theatre - Valerion VisionMater Max and other options Have you experienced any issues with your Valerion? I’ve been reading of a lot of negative review of the projector over heating and turning off, burnt o pixels and the HDMI inputs failing.
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mithirich 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · (Newbie) Looking for a nice projector and decided on an awol/valerion, but not sure if I should get Valerion vision master Pro2, Vision master Max, or AWOL Aetherion Xgimi titan noir is about to launch their kickstarter. Pretty attractive intro pricing and based on this video, an improvement over the valerion visionmaster max. The black level looks better than even the aetherion max. Finishing my basement and was set on a visionmaster pro 2, but discovered the titan noir and put a deposit on that. I’m getting it for the same price as what I would’ve spent on a visionmaster pro 2 [Titan Noir vs AWOL/Valerion](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=42yJmCv5-UU&t=271s&pp=2AGPApACAQ%3D%3D&fbclid=IwVERDUAQ2I8hleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEe3yeUJwvSnmUmn7lf0PSmNsslMUbyY4xVzjS5axPG8AVDbKcBlwFuJUBPnX0_aem_Lo80b6fqDPlGZPHdoGSCnA)
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batista227 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · (Newbie) Looking for a nice projector and decided on an awol/valerion, but not sure if I should get Valerion vision master Pro2, Vision master Max, or AWOL Aetherion I am about to pull the trigger on Max (currently $4k w free mount) so, have you owned/seen Pro2? It is quite a $$$$ difference so, just wondering what experiences you have had w both.
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MisterBoylan 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Best Projector to Buy in 2026? (Price, Brightness, Resolution) If you're gonna keep the cat, consider ceiling mounting the projector. Most of these lifestyle projectors can be ceiling mounted, even the heavy ones. I have a VisionMaster Max on my ceiling. Hasn't fallen. (Yet). The Lifestyle projectors normally only have a single 1/4" tripod style mounting hole, and those brackets are pretty inexpensive. Traditional rectangular "home theater" projectors have 3 or 4 mounting holes so they'd need a different style of mounting bracket. I used this one for the VisionMaster Max and it works great (supports up to 33 pounds). It's overkill for the N1S, but you may decide to upgrade one day. [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CZDMGF77?ref=ppx\_yo2ov\_dt\_b\_fed\_asin\_title&th=1](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CZDMGF77?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1) Just make sure you experiment with distance from the wall \*before\* you mount the ceiling bracket on the ceiling. Most affordable lifestyle projectors have limited zoom range so you'll need the projector at a specific distance in order to get your preferred screen size. Also, it's a good idea to find the ceiling joist (beam) to mount the bracket. While a lighter projector is probably OK with the heavy duty expanding hollow wall/ceiling anchors, screwing the bracket into a wooden joist is much safer and a requirement for a heavier projector. Also, if possible, align the mounting bracket with the center area of where you want your "screen" to appear on the wall. Yes, projectors have keystone to adjust for off-center placement, but this cuts into your screen resolution. Many home theater projectors have vertical and horizontal lens shift to adjust for this but most lifestyle projectors don't (even the Vision Master Max only has vertical lens shift, no horizontal). Good luck!
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au-LowEarthOrbit 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Best Projector to Buy in 2026? (Price, Brightness, Resolution) The Max is a different level of control over picture. C3 ultra is priced like pro, and the pro2 would be its value range for light output hardware quality. I like the lamp for the smoother less intense light reflecting back. I can view it for longer with less strain. I like the laser for its pin point sharpness likeable colours and its overall doesnt give a fk how well lit the room is. RBE is like you say a DLP thing that's common but laser shows it worse for me. I never really seen it before. And im still waiting to pick a screen. waiting for the samples to show up for now. And a cheap 100' screen one of my friends says I won't need anything else. I think it will be junk somehow. But good screen is huge expense and want to get it right.
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ChangeRemote7569 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Upgrading from 6050UB: Are Laser/DLP projectors losing the "cinematic feel"? (Considering LS12000 vs. Valerion Max) The Nebula is brighter, especially so if your 6050 bulb has notably dimmed over time. I'd say high brightness is one of the biggest reasons why an image could feel un-cinematic and more like a big TV. It also can't display 24p without judder unlike your 6050 or the Valerion max
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p00pers1987 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Early days with the Xgimi Horizon 20 Max Are you still using your Horizon 20 Pro? Updated review? I’m torn between the Horizon 20 Pro and horizon 20 Max models as the valerion Max is way out of my budget. Wondering if I’m missing out on much with less brightness on the Pro model when compared to the Max.
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Even_Twist895 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion Visionmaster Max bowing issue FYI - I reached out to Valerion about the image bowing/distortion when using zoom. This is their email response below. Seems bull to me when they say this is within normal range.... I love the picture but knowing I paid $4k and have to live with this just doesn't sit right with me. I still have about 2 weeks for my 30 day return window. Also my throw range is around 1.3 and can't be moved. Thank you for your reply and for sharing the information. We’re sorry for the inconvenience caused by the image distortion. The Max model introduces a lens shift function, and its lens design is more complex than other models. At a throw ratio close to 1.5:1, slight image distortion may occur, which is within the normal range for the projector industry. Please try placing the projector closer to the screen to bring the throw ratio closer to 0.9:1. This should reduce the visibility of distortion. In addition, our software team is currently working on upgrading the manual keystone correction to an 8-point keystone correction, which will allow the distorted areas of the image to be adjusted more precisely. This feature will be added through a future OTA update. Thank you for your understanding We apologize for the inconvenience caused. If you have any further questions, feel free to contact us anytime.🙂️
r/projectors · Valerion Visionmaster Max bowing issue Honestly when I watch movies I don't notice it and the picture looks great. It's just annoying knowing that it's the when I paid 4k for it. Does the bowing not distort the entire image and instead just cuts off the screen a little? If it just cuts the screen by that small amount on both sides where I really don't notice then I can live with it. But is it impacting the entire image and making it worse although it hard to perceive?
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Ok_Razzmatazz6681 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion Visionmaster Max bowing issue My Valerion Max is also bowing. Has anyone here found any solutions?
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CB675 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion Visionmaster Max bowing issue I appreciate this response as someone who had major FOMO when deciding between max and JVC NZ700. Kind of gives me peace of mind not even having to deal with lottery issue of the device. I’ll sleep in peace going forward with my nz700 lol
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Ace_Eminent 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion max ceiling mount Using the Lens Shift will not degrade picture quality in any way. You are safe in that regard.
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Texus86 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Premium Tech, Even Better Service: How Valerion Won My Loyalty That's wonderful, especially after the shit show of impatient Kickstarter complaints. Have had no problems with mine or anything the company needed to address. So I just sit there marvelling at the picture on my Max. Which model did you get?
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lolkriz 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Deciding between Valerion Pro 2 and Vidda C3 ultra Personally I think Valerion projectors look the best design-wise (I like the industrial look) but they are a bit overpriced imo at least the Pro 2 and Max. I still bought the Max for my living room and I’m very happy with it and its iris and EBL produce deeper blacks than I thought they would even on a white wall.
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speedgator 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion Max Lens Shift when Ceiling Mounted Okay this would make sense as to why it doesn’t shift in that direction. Would you say I’d be at any disadvantage if I have the projector sitting (right-side up) right at 88” or a little above (since I can lens shift down) in order to optimize screen placement? I’m worried if I aim right for 88” and I’m off even a little I can’t shift the other way without having to keystone. And if I do lens shift a little it should still produce a perfectly rectangular image even though it’s shifted? Assuming I get everything perfectly leveled.
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Doyouekoms 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion Max Lens Shift when Ceiling Mounted If the mount can't lower the projector enough to align with the top of the screen within the shift range,you'll likely need either a longer pole or tall stand behind seating. Avoid keystone if you can. Rear walll shelf might be the cleaner solution if the throw distance works.
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Ok_Equivalent7528 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · HT - XW5000ES vs. NZ500 vs. VisionMaster Max I would personally not compare the Valerion with the Sony or JVC. Both the Sony and JVC are NATIVE 4K and have far superior native contrast. You could argue the Valerion has “higher” brightness but to achieve the deep blacks you’ll want in a completely light controlled room, the brightness will sink to 1800-2000 lumens (which is lower/in line with Sony and JVC). The trade off is that you still won’t have the same blacks as the other two. I think many would argue the JVC is the better choice.
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AfriqueA1 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · AWOL Aetherion series vs Valerion Vision Master Hey I was considering the Valerion Max for over a year. I decided to do some more research and what's selling me on Aetherion over the max is the gaming segment. I'm not a huge gamer, but I like future proofing my stuff as much as possible. The Valerion maxes at 4k 60 htz and the Aetherion offers 4k at 120 htz. The Aetherion offers both VRR (variable refresh rate) and ALLM (auto low latency mode) while the Valerion just ALLM. The eARC is HDMI 2.1 on the Aetherion. Only 2.0 on the max. This doesn't matter as much for me personally, but for future proofing reasons, the max has 2 hdmi 2.1 ports and 1 2.0. I would rather the Aetherion with all 3 being 2.1.
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IMKGI 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month >Colors often tinted too green, even when applying different color temperature options This needs clarifying, this is not a defect with the projector, but a problem with your eyes, the Valerion is RGB Laser while the Epson is not, it means the Valerion has a much higher Color gamut, and your eyes can't see the red as well as it should. That's why the image looks green. Personally don't have issues with the remote, you learn the button layout relatively quickly and from there the backlight is useless, only really matters in the first week of use imo. The different colours between the images have less Todo with it being DLP, it comes back to why it looks green to you, cheap filters on shitty cameras (includes TOTL phone cameras) have problems with the immense Color gamut and can't properly capture it. the only cameras I was able to get a somewhat representative image is with >1000€ dedicated full frame cameras.
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crosshuntr74 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Projector choice Exactly yea The only thing im losing is some blacks i think they are close enough
r/projectors · Projector choice Oh gaming and brightness the max owns the nz500 I was talking about overall picture quality and blacks (ik overall jvc wins blacks)
r/projectors · Projector choice I dont stream I get my movies remuxed and they are always dolby vision rarely hdr10+ I dont even remember when I last saw an sdr movie tbh 😅 Exactly yea I think going 150 inch screen is a main cause for me to lean over to the valerion I guess the max wins for my specific scenarios
r/projectors · Projector choice Yea im not gonna be running hdr10+ on the max im gonna be doing dolby vision Also ik very beginner for projectors , this is literally my 1st ever projector so I think im leaning towards sacrificing some black depth for hdr pop especially since the nz500 would struggle hard on 150 inch so yea I think my decision is set If you have more insights for me please do tell me im learning alot talking with you
r/projectors · Projector choice Gaming is not the main use for the projector either its just a nice to have i intend to have an oled anyway for gaming mainly Dolby vision however is really important to me so it being present is really good From what I gathered the sharpness on the max actually beats the nz800 not just the 500/700 its sharper but the jvc is more organic
r/projectors · Projector choice Thats very true , only the iris is hardware otherwise it seems fully software dependant but I mean if it delivers 90% of the overall blacks of the jvc but gives more brightness in hdr , dolby vision , 4k/120 then goddamn sign me in immediately
r/projectors · Projector choice So its pretty much trading pop of the HDR for black levels Makes sense , I think the nz500 would struggle hard with hdr in my case and if setting both on hdr (dolby vision for the max , hdr10+ for the nz500) the gap closes quite significantly no?
r/projectors · Projector choice Yea that was my thoughts too Then someone I trust alot owns both and said the valerion is sharper overall and having 4k/120 and Dolby vision doesnt hurt tbh So im torn apart
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robykdesign 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month People should know that picking a projector based on a photo of its image, viewed on the screen of their phone/computer is absurd. If they don't, then I don't know what to say. The fact that Epson (known specifically for their color accuracy) has better colors is not surprising. And while you can find many praising reviews of the Valerion, even from this forum I feel their influencer marketing campaign is very intense. I cannot stand any amount of RBE and the idea of it just seems silly to me, so I'm stuck with Epson, but I am not surprised that one of their top offerings should be superior to some relatively noname DLP. Even if the 4K is faked.
r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month People should know that picking a projector based on a photo of its image, viewed on the screen of their phone/computer is absurd. If they don't, then I don't know what to say. The fact that Epson (known specifically for their color accuracy) has better colors is not surprising. And while you can find many praising reviews of the Valerion, even from this forum I feel their influencer marketing campaign is very intense. I cannot stand any amount of RBE and the idea of it just seems silly to me, so I'm stuck with Epson, but I am not surprised that one of their top offerings should be superior to some relatively noname DLP. Even if the 4K is faked.
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FichwaFellow 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Upgraded from JMGO N1S Ultra to Valerion Visionmaster Max. Why spend so much to upgrade when your relatively new projector looked "wonderful"? And why is there no possibility of placing the projector correctly?
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CAMl117 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month The edge effect is due to the way these projectors achieve 4K resolution, using Pixel Shifting, where the chip projects the image four times (or twice if it's larger) in four different positions, each one pixel away from the others... Are you sure you have it in 4K? Hehehe
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Agitated_Mountain_92 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion Vision Master pro 2 Okay, yeah I got the bundle, and I’ve seen the hookup, he says it’s not much worth it upgrading to the max for more money. Just didn’t know how well this projector would do about a year out since release
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kingwarmblood 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Help choosing between Valerion or Epson I would go with Valerion, I have the max and am not disappointed one bit, my projector is in an unideal position, keystoned to hell and is producing a vivid picture 300" + on my wall.
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guruguys 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Next Chapter Review: Valerion VisionMaster Max – Specs vs Reality The rainbows in the 3D mode because it does not allow RBE are horrible compared to every other 3D projector I've owned.
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lvsnowden 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Epson LS12000 vs Valerion VisonMaster Max Thanks. Horizontal lens shift isn't required since it's a dedicated theater. Not sure if the mount drift warrants an additional $2k to avoid.
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Particular_Focus_689 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Epson LS12000 vs Valerion VisonMaster Max I just bought the valerion vision master max and I super pleased with its image quality, and the 3500 lumens it boasts is incredible! Although I’m not familiar with the epson, I would personally vouch for the valerion, since it is a sister company to awol vision. And it’s google tv OS makes it simple to use with any streaming apps. It can basically plug and play. The colors from this photo don’t do it any justice for its actual vibrant colors in person but just look at the way it’s brightness fill my living room! I have nothing to complain about its performance with dark images either. But which ever you can get the best deal on is what I would most consider. https://preview.redd.it/iu2i4i1szdag1.jpeg?width=5712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=986ec7fd1fdeb223e760049399718e7bd8860373
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Informal-Power-5216 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Next Chapter Review: Valerion VisionMaster Max – Specs vs Reality Speckle is horrible where my friends LS12000 had no speckle his Max shows a lot of speckle in white and blue scenes
r/projectors · Next Chapter Review: Valerion VisionMaster Max – Specs vs Reality Not its not a properly setup LS12000 will run circles around the Max
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Evening_Ad9523 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Unpopular Opinion: Are We Experiencing Peak Hype? My Take on the Valerion VisionMaster Max (And the Echo Chamber Review Culture) I do trust the hook up, very informative and exhaustive reviews. Your comment about colour blindness made me think as I too have mild colour blindness. I’ve tried the Valerion Pro and Max models plus the new XGIMI Horizon 20 Max. I couldn’t get on with any of them and have reverted to my older XGIMI Horizon S Max which to my eyes anyway seems to give a better image. The older XGIMI uses dual light rather than laser so that might be the defining factor.
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First-Dinner9995 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Early days with the Xgimi Horizon 20 Max Sold the Max and stayed with the XGIMI Horizon 20 Pro. Many bugs in the software but the image quality is excellent to me. Perceived contrast without ebl is higher on the XGIMI due to the better lens. Peak brightness was higher (blinding) on the Max but only noticeable on flash scenes.(Spotlights or explosions) Iris on the Valerion did improve contrast but at expense of brightness. I found I never used anything above level 2 (out of 6) anyway.
r/projectors · Early days with the Xgimi Horizon 20 Max No mention about the lens quality. The xgimi Horizon 20 Pro image is much sharper. The Valerion Max images feel soft.
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No_Chard5466 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Early days with the Xgimi Horizon 20 Max You have seen both? Can you comment on contrast, or calibrated brightness? I'm seeing zero reason to get the Valerion Max over any of the 3 Horizon models...
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kurtisbmusic 🇬🇧🌐
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r/projectors · Need advice to choose between Xgimi Horizon 20/20 pro vs Valerion visionmaster pro 2 Not for me. I’ve had the Pro 2 now for over a month and never once thought “I wish I spent almost $2k more for a slightly better picture”.
r/projectors · Need advice to choose between Xgimi Horizon 20/20 pro vs Valerion visionmaster pro 2 Pro 2 on sale: $2,300 Max on sale: $4,000 🤦🏻♂️
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saipavan23 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Need advice to choose between Xgimi Horizon 20/20 pro vs Valerion visionmaster pro 2 True but is it not worth the price with all the extra contrast and black levels you get 50000:1 contrast vas 15000:1 for pro
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sneakersneakseireph 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Trying to decide on next projector (Nebula X1, Valerion Visionmaster Pro 2, XGMI Horizon 20 Max or other?) I was kind of thinking of taking advantage of the bundle sale they got going on, maybe I'd consider just the projector alone possibly, but the bundle with the speakers is about 5k, at that point I'd rather invest differently I think.
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RallyCarTurbo4 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Hisense L9Q Delivered! That's awesome. Valerion Vision Master Max has a black level feature on their long throw but I was hoping HiSense would come up with something for the L9Q. More and more this is looking like my next projector. I have to do the whole long throw to Ultra Short Throw change to my living room though. Remove the ceiling mount, Run HDMI to the front of the living room instead of the ceiling, etc, etc, etc. It's gonna be quite involved. lol
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dgwow123 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Unpopular Opinion: Are We Experiencing Peak Hype? My Take on the Valerion VisionMaster Max (And the Echo Chamber Review Culture) The valerion Max is the best overall projector picture for projectors under 10k that you can buy without having to go through the Chinese marketplace (some newer Chinese projectors may compete with but no support for them outside of China yet) Iris 5 or 6 and EBL is unbeatable, EBL is currently the best dynamic dimming algorithm that exists in any projector.
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Ok_Sandwich_5601 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · First Time Projector Owner - Choice? Hey we're in the same spot. Im coming from an LG C1 Oled. I love that tv, but i was recently gifted a Horizon 20 max and I can say it is truly amazing. The screen size is something you cant just look away from even with the blacks not being oled black levels. Im also in a light controlled room so this isn't a problem for me Horizon 20 Max's motion is amazing. Im glad I got it because of the 1ms input lag and the use of VRR. Valerion max was something i did want because its blacks but I cant justify spending 4k for a projector and another 1k to 2k on a screen. I going to get a motorized 120 inch project from nothing projector. But I have no regrets and this is form just my wall that are black https://preview.redd.it/qg2mb2gpm2zf1.jpeg?width=2992&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=332f1b15d9667da47d90e51a6acec0a5e55e4e13
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JayceOoiCom 🇬🇧
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r/budgetprojectors · Anyone else tempted by the Valerion VisionMaster Max preorder deal? Trying to talk myself out of it Unless you really sensentive with rainbox effect and need Valerion's anti-rainbow feature, else XGIMI HORIZON 20 Max is the cheaper and better choice. More info @ [https://youtu.be/-PrhI5KIksI](https://youtu.be/-PrhI5KIksI)
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Flat_Cheetah_1567 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Xgimi Horizon 20 Base Vs Nexigo Tricolor Ultra? I have a valerion visionmaster max if anyone is interested, I ordered 2 back then I don't need now both because I kept my OLED to the other room, 4500$ Florida State
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Ok_Item6641 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Best $2k-$3k lifestyle projector late 2025 I have not noticed RBE issues at all. When deciding on the projector, I read that some viewers had this issue with the Pro 2 and we risked it. I have no regrets with this projector, even with the Max coming out (we bought right before the release, knowing it was coming). To be honest, I am 100% positive that my family would not notice the difference. A lot of projector enthusiasts will say the Max is the way to go, but the Pro 2 is just a killer picture! And it leaves more “room” in the budget for the screen, which I feel like is super-important with non-dedicated theater rooms (maybe for all setups?). I cannot say enough about the image quality! If money were no object for us whatsoever, sure we would pick up the Max. We just had to draw our line somewhere and landed on the Pro 2. You also have to consider sound source. I saw a comment about the sound of the Pro 2 and can personally say that I think it sounds great out of the box. Do you want surround sound? Leave room for that upgrade possibly? We will eventually get a 5.1 set up, but no complaints about the current quality. img
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Consistent-Ship3874 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · JVC NZ500 or (Valerion Max + LG HU710PW) Having now owned a JVC projector, I'll gladly take a Visionmaster Max over it ANY DAY...the sharpness and not having to constantly panel align, makes it a clear winner
r/projectors · Valerion Vision Master Max - new projector from IFA Actual measured native contrast is 3100:1 which is approaching Epson territory, and that in itself for a dlp unit, is extraordinary!😱
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TheRealOrcus 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion Max Launch Value The problem is you can have the increased brightness or increased contrast (over the Pro 2), but not both. Well to an extent. But the more you close the iris to increase contrast, the more brightness you lose. To get twice the contrast of the Pro 2, you would only be getting around 1300 lumens on the Max (because the iris would have to be closed to minimum).
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Murky-Rush2988 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion Max Launch Value I put a $100 down yesterday. Too bad the anamorphic lens wasn’t part of the gifts! Lol!
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ShadowsTagiru 🇬🇧🌐
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r/projectors · Epson LS11000 or 5050UB for Home Theater? Nah. Valerion pro 2 and max are so much better Heck even nexigo scores higher Except for the high brightness
r/projectors · Epson LS11000 or 5050UB for Home Theater? Valerion max have a option to reduce RBE to almost zero. So no.
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Thicky_Amberz 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Testing out Xgimi Horizon 20 Max, 5700 lumens Review on Youtube. From what I'm seeing there is NO way the Max is worth twice the price of the Xgimi. Maybe the Valerion edges it out in black levels or some small ways, but the visuals I'm seeing on the Xgimi look amazing. Again, maybe the Valerion Max is "better", but it sure isn't "twice the price" better. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lEj8jEx6H0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lEj8jEx6H0)
r/projectors · Testing out Xgimi Horizon 20 Max, 5700 lumens Really want to see how these compares to the Valerion Max. What Valerion is charging for the Max is ridiculous. $2K for kickstarter but $5K now? Yeah I don't see that actually selling at that price point and it will have to be reduced.
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Afraid_Book_3590 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion vs Hisense The Valerion is excellent. But has 1600 native contrast and you need to rely on EBL for the rest. Not too much a problem if you don’t use subtitles and are ok with some artéfacts but otherwise, the X1 has 5000 native contrast because it has an iris. On top of it they’re developing an EBL. I would rank them like this: Valerion Max > X1 > Pro 2 > C2
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TheKrawnic 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Outdoor projector suggestions? Looking for something good for my backyard I also had my eye on the Nebula!!! With 3500 ANSI lumens and a native contrast ratio of 5000:1, it seems perfect for movies like The Dark Knight or Dune, where dark scenes are too gloomy or bright scenes fade on lesser projectors. Honestly better than Valerion and JMGO and Hisense
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Revolutionary_Break7 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Formovie Theater Premium or Valerion VisionMaster Pro 2 If I want to buy one in 2025. I think I am going to get the Formovie Theater Premium. Its less expensive than Valerion Max by 1000$. The Valerion was a no brainer when it was on Kickstarter. For retail its a lot of money when you have other better alternatives.
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popopopopopopopopoop 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Hisense C2 vs Benq X3100i I feel you. Only learned about the Valerion Max today and simply can't afford it plus wait until May (if not delayed!) doesn't sound great. I am now sort of leaning Valerion Pro 2, especially after reading this detailed technical review. (need to translate from French) https://www.mondoprojos.fr/2024/12/29/test-valerion-visionmaster-pro2/ There were a few benq models discussed in one of the threads above that I am still considering, mainly because of lens shift and better warranty/brand. After all my current purchase is kicked off due to being left with no support by jmgo after only 18months since the kickstarter campaign... But feels like a tough decision since they're not thaaaat much cheaper and missing hdmi 2.1 and a lot of them are still using Led rather than laser and with lower tested contrast.
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fizzlebeef 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · 5050ub vs Valerion Visionmaster Pro2 I'm in the same boat. Nearly ordered 5050ub on sale, but opted for the Valerion Max (I need the vertical lens shift) My thoughts were, for the similar price, you get an upgrade at nearly every key feature. I'm bummed I need to wait at least 6 months, but I think it'll be worth the wait. Also, consider a gray screen if you have light bouncing around the room from the projector. I have a light controlled room as well, but no darkened walls so I'm shopping for gray screens to see if it helps. You can get samples from most screen companies to test them.
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tbob22 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Help Choosing a Portable Laser Projector: Nebula Cosmos 4K SE vs JMGO N1S Ultra vs Hisense C2 Ultra The Max may be special with the iris and lens shift in the price range for an RGB lifestyle projector. But yes the Pro2 seems to be basically a Hisense C2 Ultra with more advanced software.
r/projectors · Valerion Vision Master Max - new projector from IFA Yes, I did see that. I am still waiting for calibrated contrast measurements but it does look impressive so far, right up there or better than UST's.
r/projectors · Valerion Vision Master Max - new projector from IFA Yeah that's the one. I noticed some brightness and color shifting, but it does seem to work alright otherwise.
r/projectors · Valerion Vision Master Max - new projector from IFA I'm confused by that statement. Some of the most popular projectors for dedicated home theaters - such as Epson and JVC almost all have motorized zoom and lens shift. It's safe to say I have my doubts about this one, I would be surprised if true native contrast is over 1500:1 much less the 4000:1 they are advertising. If it really did have 4000:1 native contrast and 15000:1 dynamic it would good option at $1999 but at $3999 it's getting into JVC and Epson laser territory which neither have RBE that is inherit to the single chip DLP design and will likely have better overall contrast as well as true 4k@120hz in some of the projectors which this one is lacking.
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MrM1269 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · 4k laser/led options In a similar situation with my BenQ. I've been researching and the Valerion Pro2 or Max would seem to be a good replacement. Rated for 25k hours. I'm not one to take a risk on kickstarter but if it proves to be all that it claims then it will be my next purchase. Hopefully all the bugs will be worked out by then.
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mariposadishy 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · JVC NZ500 or (Valerion Max + LG HU710PW) Yes, these projectors are in a very different market segment with the JVC having a real edge in contrast ratio and therefore black levels. It think it is generally understood that good black levels are critical for good picture quality and the JVC DILA technology produces contrast ratios and therefore better black levels that are 5 to 10 times better than any DLP projector that sells for less than $80K! ANSI contrast is really not meaningful, especially in a room with light colored walls. Intrascene contrast ratios are important, but not the 50:50 black white checkerboard pattern that is use for ANSI. Similar Intrascene contrast measurements with 1 to 5% average picture level are much more meaningful, but again in a room with light colored walls, the room will dominate that measurement. The JVC is clearly the better projector, especially in a dark colored room, but even in a room with light colored walls, the fade to black and very dark scenes will much be better on the JVC. The fact that 3D has been eliminated from the NZ500 is unfortunate, but I really do think that 3D is essentially dead. I have watched 3D on my previous SONY and JVC projectors, but have yet to try it on my JVC NZ800. Although 3D is kind of fun the first few times, I would rather watch a movie in 4K than 3D with glasses.
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mvillalo7 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · C2 ultra vs jmgo n1s ultimate Not sure if anyone also mention that the C2 Ultra has a native contrast ratio of 2000:1 vs the 1600:1 of the JmGo N1S Ultimate. I'd rather take 500 lumens less and go with the better contrast ratio. At 3000 lumens, I think that's good enough for the Hisense. The only other one that competes is the upcoming Valerion VisionMaster Max which releases in May 2025 and that has a 4000:1 native contrast ratio with 3000 lumens. They also got the Valerion Pro 2 which releases in December but doesn't have the vertical lens shifting or dynamic iris.
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Keyrron 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion Max vs Epson LS11000 Valerion is looking to offer a very interesting lineup and is a sister company to AWOL Vision that has proven itself in the last couple of years. But the projectors are pretty different to each other. Are you comparing them based on price or based on your needs? The Epson LS11000 is pretty nice but it lacks the polarizer that turns the 3LCD’s blue-ish blacks to an actual black color. The Valerion is a very interesting package but IRL the projector itself looks ugly to me and even with all the fancy stuff they put in there, a €4000 pricetag for a current gen .47” just doesn’t sit well with me.
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Gameroomtheater 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion Projector with crazy specd Was supposed to get a max in but looks like it's really not available to check out yet until late this year. I actually need horizontal shift as well but don't think that's going to happen just vertical.
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xspeed20 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion Vision Master Max - new projector from IFA If its unknown brand it will be but this is from AWOL sub division and usually when it has track record it will deliver based on ny KS experience
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kennyj313 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · HT - XW5000ES vs. NZ500 vs. VisionMaster Max That's a fair point - I do recognize that the Valerion is more in the "lifestyle" product segment, but the appeal of plug and play DV support is certainly tempting. Really my only hesitation is whether there's a way to do some of the LLDV workarounds on the JVC so that I can play that content without having to revert to the base HDR10 layer and the JVC's internal DTM.
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EssEnnJae 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Help choosing between Valerion or Epson Valerion 100% had their pro2 and now the max and it is an amazing projector with good community support and they push out frequent updates. They are also the only projector that i know of to get 3rd party support for custom lenses. That’s how good it is.
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JustImagination6997 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Testing out Xgimi Horizon 20 Max, 5700 lumens Same, valerion pro 2! The max is a little too expensive for my current finances.
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seniorfrito 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month Unfortunately, I don't think this is a fair representation. You mention the clearly worse-looking projector doesn't actually look like this in real life, but viewers have no way to verify that claim. I'm sure this isn't your intention, but this reads like a hit piece. You're not overly critical of the projector that looks worse in your image, yet you ultimately favor the one that looks better in the comparison. I found it hard to believe the Valerion Visionmaster Max could actually look this poor (and I have no stake in this product), so I looked up reviews myself. A quick check of YouTube videos shows that other reviewers don't encounter this quality issue at all. Again, I don't think you're doing this intentionally, but the comparison is misleading and gives uninformed viewers the wrong impression. If I were making the same comparison, I'd capture both projectors as true to life as possible. Putting them side by side clearly causes issues with your camera's image capture. The fact that you noticed this problem but didn't attempt to correct it is concerning. A fairer approach would be to photograph each projector separately under identical conditions, then present those images side by side.
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Lowbider 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion support You do know that the anti RBE on the valerion is only on the Max projector.
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nathanielbartholem 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Unpopular Opinion: Are We Experiencing Peak Hype? My Take on the Valerion VisionMaster Max (And the Echo Chamber Review Culture) Saying a $5000 projector (Valerion) beats at $3000 projector (Nebula X1) is not really groundbreaking news. I think what we are hoping is that the Valerion beats the other good projectors that have a street price around 5k, like the entry level JVC and Sony. That would be very cool.
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Zencats_Xieri 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Outdoor projector suggestions? Looking for something good for my backyard I also had my eye on the Nebula!!! With 3500 ANSI lumens and a native contrast ratio of 5000:1, it seems perfect for movies like The Dark Knight or Dune, where dark scenes are too gloomy or bright scenes fade on lesser projectors. Honestly better than Valerion and JMGO and Hisense
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rontombot 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Next Chapter Review: Valerion VisionMaster Max – Specs vs Reality 3500 vs 3000 lumens... no human can discern that difference in bright scenes... human perception of brightness is near logarithmic.
r/projectors · Next Chapter Review: Valerion VisionMaster Max – Specs vs Reality 3500 vs 3000 lumens... no human can discern that difference in bright scenes... human perception of brightness is near logarithmic.
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xuzxzx 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Valerion VisionMaster Max or Nebula X1 Pro You are paying for marketing fluff markup which does not contribute to image quality. There are much better options out there.
r/projectors · Valerion VisionMaster Max or Nebula X1 Pro The max is overpriced crap
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Interesting-Permit19 🇬🇧
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r/projectors · Comparison - Running the Valerion Visionmaster Max alongside the Epson LS11000 for a month Even at the black level, Valerion is not quite ok, I saw it in tests. Not to mention the colors, a little too faded. I don't really trust projectors with Chinese children's names, and planets or constellations!
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batatatchugen 🇬🇧
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r/gadgets · Valerion VisionMaster Max projector review: Near-perfect image quality comes at a price Really? I thought it was free and used no energy, also having no running costs. Who would have thought this would come at a cost. Not me.
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r/projectors · Valerion Visionmaster Max bowing issue Nah it’s the optics.
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Le VisionMaster Max offre-t-il une belle image ?
Le consensus Reddit décrit une image nette, lumineuse, colorée et convaincante, notamment grâce à l’iris et au traitement EBL. Certains utilisateurs signalent néanmoins du speckle laser, des variations de couleur ou une image moins précise selon l’exemplaire et les réglages.
Est-il adapté aux personnes sensibles aux arcs-en-ciel ?
Les utilisateurs Reddit jugent généralement sa réduction du RBE très efficace, parfois au point de rendre les arcs-en-ciel difficiles à percevoir. Les personnes les plus sensibles peuvent encore en voir, et ce mode peut produire un bourdonnement aigu.
Vaut-il son prix public ?
Le consensus est nettement plus favorable aux tarifs de lancement ou en promotion. Au prix public, beaucoup estiment que le gain face au Pro 2 ou à des concurrents moins chers ne justifie pas toujours l’écart.
L’installation au plafond est-elle simple ?
Le décalage vertical de l’objectif et la plage de projection facilitent certains placements. En revanche, l’absence de décalage horizontal, la hauteur requise, de possibles dérives ou déformations et la nécessité d’éviter le trapèze imposent une préparation précise.



Pour 2000€ , j'ai pas beaucoup d autres choix Oui un valerion max ou titan noir serait top. Mais c'est le double