Moccamaster

J'ai regardé sur internet les Moccamaster, ces machines semblent de qualité. J'ai vu les autres modèles et vu que OP est le seul à boire du café peut être un Moccamaster Cup-One serait plus adapté !!

Perso je suis totalement ravie de ma Moccamaster, c’est encore mieux si tu peux prendre du grain moulu grossièrement et ça fait du bon café filtre 100% du temps, je ne lui demande que ça :) Pas programmable par contre (en tout cas sur mon modèle de base) mais comme c’est juste un bouton on off tu dois pouvoir le faire avec une smartplug. 

MoccaMaster. La Rolls des machines à café filtre. Tu mets un programmateur au niveau de la prise et tu l'allumes avant d'aller dormir. Elle se lance seule et tu peux Enjoy le tout. Une fois testée, tu dépasseras les 3 tasses par jour, crois moi, lol.

Love my machine! Some advice from owning one after 4 years. Go buy a bunch of the springs for the coffee filler. I’ve lost a couple times when cleaning it. They tend to fly off and go down the drain if you’re not careful. Or maybe I’m too rough when cleaning. Also buy a descaler kit for her, I run mine every 200 pots or about a box of filters. https://a.co/d/0rn70hs https://us.moccamaster.com/collections/replacement-parts/products/auto-drip-stop-repair-kit They sold just the spring before but you can also find on Amazon.

This is a MoccaMaster ripoff. The MoccaMaster is so good because it has copper internals. I doupt that this ripoff has that.

If you want something super reliable and simple, Id go with the Technivorm Moccamaster. you basically just fill it, flip the switch, and it brews great drip coffee, plus it'll last for years. its pricey, but definitely a “buy it for life” kind of machine

A bit about their service. I decided to take mine apart to clean all of it, ended up breaking a glass tube. Emailed them, paid 80$, dropped off a box of parts at ups they replaced the boiler, water reservoir, broken tube and something else. They paid for shipping both ways, although it’s not standard. Dropped it off to ups on Friday, was making coffee Thursday. Amazing.

We got one from the 70s that we found at a thrift store after moving out with my fiancee since my mother-in-law has had a Moccamaster too. Works just fine, I took it apart to clean it once and was shocked how simple the design was. Works like a charm.

Moccamaster coffee makers are kinda eternal, no need to get anything else.

That sounds so awesome, i need to try that as well! :)

Try asking about this in the r/coffee or r/jameshoffmann subreddits. Someone might have a fix for the ejecting hot coffee drawer issue. But if you’re intent on getting some new equipment, they’re going to tell you to get the moccamaster. I don’t have one, but apparently they’re pretty much the definition of bifl - where everything on the machine is repairable

Only get the moccamaster is your mom buys quality coffee. If she’s a Maxwell house, Folgers or Seattles Best gal, then stick to the OXO. Moccamaster does the best job extracting the flavor from beans. But if the beans are shitty, that’s not actually ideal.

Agreed, but also, there is too much plastic in the MM. copper internals and all plastic externals.  For the record I use a MM everyday for yeeeeaaaars now. I just also think the dripper and the downspout could easily be a different material. You can put a V60 where the dripper goes but it’s not a perfect solution.  My hot take: MM should make an official alternate material dripper, and Zojuirushi should have a stainless bowl option for the Neuro Fuzzy. 

Do you descale it regularly? I’ve been consistently doing it between boxes of filters and it works great, but I wonder how abusive I could be and still get good coffee. 

Not really. Once the metal reaches brew temp, which happens pretty quickly, it will be pretty consistently.  Most pour overs call for water right off of boil, which is what the moccamaster does well, so there’s not much you can do there. 

That’s actually my point… I wish it was made of asbestos or lead or something more dangerous.  It’s more the longevity. The Teflon will break down and the plastic dripper is all stained with coffee oils. They will be the main items that breakdown in these two machines. 

from their website: every part touching water (cold and hot) and coffee is plastic-free borosilicate glass carafe & water reservoir stainless steel shower arm, shower head, filter basket, hot water up-pipe, reservoir floor cover, one-way valve, water into boiler tube, boiler, and carafe top. surgical silicone fittings/connectors there's no doubt that there's less plastic on this unit vs the moccamaster, no idea if it will last as long though

I got mine on sale a few years ago. True tanks. Let me ask you, how do you go about descaling the left side?

I'll be the first to say the usual answer of Technivorm Moccamaster. Literally only 2 switches, on/off and half/full brew. I really like mine, they're hand made, it's built like a tank and you get a lifelong warranty.

I did mention that in a comment further down. I missed the budget initially, but I got one for 135 euros and they turn up for about half that often enough too. I just paid the premium because I wanted a yellow one.

I picked up mine second hand for 135 euros. I paid a premium for the yellow one (for some reason they are always more expensive), but plainer colours come up for 75 euros second hand quite often.

Moccamaster, it's simple and serviceable

Had one for 5 years. Works perfectly.

Understandable. It is a great coffee pot. One of the few with designer colors. Wish I could have gotten it in a 12 or 14 cup size and/or with a carafe.

https://sca.coffee/certified-home-brewer Basically means that it brews at the correct and consistent temperature and the correct rate to make consistently good tasting coffee.

I did say that most gold cup machines must use a pump to get the consistency of temperature and flow. I own the breville after cross shopping the mocamaster and decided my wife would enjoy the iced coffee pre-set and I like the idea of the descaling reminder.

If you want to have it automatically start brewing before you wake up, you can plug it into timer like the ones for Christmas lights.

> honestly the coffee is fine. Not amazing, but good enough that I don’t feel unhappy drinking it. Sounds like you have no need to upgrade.

I bought a moccamaster a few years ago and long term i'm finding it a little... disappointing. Ultimately it looks cool but it's still just a drip coffee maker. It takes up a lot of counter space. Design is ok. It's all business. The insulated carafe is quality. (I opted for the carafe instead of warming plate because i prefer cold coffee over burnt sludge) It drip brews coffee like millions of mr coffee drip machines have since the percolator fell out of fashion. There is literally no difference in the coffee it produces and our old cuisinart drip coffee maker. Doing it over again I woulda just gone with a cheaper oxo drip machine and got the next more expensive baratza burr grinder. But there's no reason to trade out now. I just feel like i kinda bought into some reddit hivemind hype on the thing when usually i'm more skeptical.

I feel you. No doubt it's a cool machine. I didn't say i was getting rid of it! If I'm making coffee for just me the aeropress makes a better cup any day of the week. My wife likes drip so i make a pot for both of us most mornings with the mocca. That Lelit looks like a sweet machine but I have not ventured into espresso machine territory yet. I'm not sure if i want to go there. Seems like a slippery slope!

Moccamaster, in your case combined with a smart outlet.

Daily question. Daily answer: Moccamaster.

It is a little weird that you have to resort to that when buying a 'better' coffee maker. The circuitry for a basic clock and timer is like the size of a quarter and is basically free.

I can appreciate that, but that's a weird POV to have. Honestly, I can't imagine anyone legitimately having that POV without specifically looking to justify why an on/off switch is somehow superior to an optional timer.

Personally don’t think it’s hype, it’s been covered over and over on this sub. It’s a durable, simple machine that makes good coffee consistently

Over and over on most coffee sites, the one thing that folks never talk about is the cup of coffee. Oh they'll talk machines, techniques, gadgets but that darn cup of coffee-- That said I hear this machine does brew a good cup--Breville as well. i make pourover daily --good coffee with good beans.

I came from decades of strong tasty pourover coffee and Moccamaster KBGV was my first drip machine in 25 years --needed something automatic for 5am wake up --put a smart switch on my MM. I stick to the following and get very strong delicious coffee 30Grams coffee to .5 L water--double it for more coffee etc. I started grinding finer and finer and found the "wow" spot--no bloom, no stirring coffee in the MM basket--just the coffee ground to taste--took three days to dial in and water in the machine. I brew the same local roaster coffee in my machine that I do later in the day for pourover. What I observe when I glance into my brew basket (where the filter is)--is with the right grind size, water sits above the coffee a tad (much like pourover but not quite). Is it as good as my pourovers-no of course not. Is it better than other drip machines--YES. I've tried it against many other machines when I visit friends etc. Every machine is different. I would have returned my MM if it was a bad machine. It's not --it's wonderful.

IDK--have a cuisinart that's over 20 years old. It was well regarded at the time. Just got a Moccamaster and hands down it made good coffee, better than most restaurants and cafes I frequent. I do pourovers mostly---Kalita or Hario -both units last decades.

Crate and Barrel is posting it for $250 today

I'm going to hold with my pour over then --my Hario and Kalita--I have hot water in a heater always on the ready (thanks Zojirushi). I have a 23 year old Cuisinart that's been great . I think I'll have to taste a pot of Moccamaster with beans I'm familiar with --it's all about taste for me.

I have an old Cuisinart with a toggle switch going on 22 years. BUT I've been doing pourover and switched to Moccamaster with a smart outlet. Bonus points, a good old analog plug timer turns it on as well. Great machine. Delicious.

That's the truth. I have a Kalita 102 that's decades old and my Hario Switch allows me to do a bit more. For machine coffee my MM made the best tasting. I've had a well regarded Cuisinart for over 21 years but the MM tastes better.

I've not had my MM reveal defects. I do pourover and pourover hands down tastes better than the MM with the same beans BUT the best machine coffee I'm having is with the MM.

That's what I read, do the bloom hack and the Moca Master rocks it. Also read about people throwing a timer in the wall between the MM and the unit and wake to coffee . I have a 20+ year old Cuisinart, only use it when I have a crowd but if it gives up the ghost likely get the Moca Master.

10 cup today $250 I can see on sale. Glass Carafe new, Crate and Barrel

Buying something today--right now --no one can say. Brand names with long standing reputations change over time..... I can say I have a Cuisinart drip machine that's over 20 years old. Moccamaster is well regarded still but will either of those, that I buy today be around in 20 years----don't know.

Personally, one of the drawing points of something like this is the fact it doesn't have any frills other than making coffee. I've never needed a timer for coffee because it really only saves you the time of hitting a button. It still needs the filter in, the grounds in, the water in, and the carafe cleaned. This is where I start teetering on coffee snob territory, but I would also say that the moccamaster is trying to be the best cup of autodrip coffee, not the easiest or most automatic to use. Typically you would get it if you value good coffee. If you value good coffee, you typically want to grind fresh beans before the pot anyway. Of course, many would say that if you *really* value good coffee you wouldn't do drip in the first place. All that to say, the moccamaster is in a really niche but effective spot in the coffee making world. I honestly think that more functionality to it in ways that aren't directly relevant to making good coffee does more to turn off their target audience than bring in new ones.

I feel like you didn't understand my point or the point of this subreddit. Firstly, a timer is a "frill" in regards to coffee making. I'm not saying it doesn't have a use or that people shouldn't prioritize it if it's important to them, but it has nothing to do with actually making good coffee. Like you said, it only needs to heat up water and pass it through beans! Secondly, we're in r/buyitforlife, not r/ICouldJustBuy20OfTheseOverMyLife. Thirdly, I said it's a **niche** product meant for coffee enthusiasts who care to have a higher quality cup than a Mr. Coffee can provide but aren't willing to do a pour over every morning. Yes, it just heats up water and passes it through beans, but it does so *consistently,* at the right temperature, blooms the beans, and has a showerhead spout instead of a stream to cover the beans evenly as opposed to a Mr. Coffee spout. If you think coffee is coffee and don't think you'd ever need more than a $20 machine, then yeah, the moccamaster seems ridiculous. That was my whole point.

No, it doesn't inherently make sense to imo. That is a whole redesign both aesthetically and internally, manufacturing setup including new processes and molds, and they have to worry about how they differentiate these two models in a way that's clear to the customer is only a clock. That all takes hundreds of thousands of dollars at least. Do you think adding a clock to it will bring in that many more customers? Or that it not having a clock was the sole reason they've left that much money on the table? To be clear, I'll eat my words and sleep soundly tomorrow if they announce one with a clock, I don't really care if it does or doesn't, but I understand why it doesn't and personally, it adds zero value to me and may just make the thing look uglier.

No they're not... the differences are stainless steel carafes, bigger carafes, and manual drip options. If anything, they get *less* automatic in other models. Again*,* they make these for enthusiasts; they prioritize good coffee and aesthetic. A digital clock adds to neither of those things. Where does this logic of "it's simple so it should have it" end? Should every toaster of $X *need* a clock? A blender? A vibrator? Should an electric coffee grinder *also* have a clock to cover all bases?

I would go moccamaster if bigl is a goal. Those units I hear have quality issues and lower warranty.

I have to say the moccamaster is bombproof. And you can get parts to fix it. And it makes fantastic coffee

Moccamaster. Not all steel but they have a huge amount of parts available for repairs and they make great coffee.

We have ours hooked up to an old school mechanical style timer and that works perfectly. I had the same complaint when I got one. As long as the power doesn't go out, you're good. But that would be the same issue with a digital one as well.

I'm a mod over at moccamaster and I've actually done research on the company and the simply good machines because they're often brought up by people who are interested in less plastic. The simply good coffee company was started by a fantastic woman who realized that not enough people have a coffee maker with a powerful enough heating element to make proper drip coffee (1400 watts) She has since retired from the company and the company is now being run by a venture capitalist who used to run a private jet rental service. Since her retirement, Simplygoodcoffee's advertising has become rather disingenuous, I won't bore you with the details I'll just give you the facts. Simplygood coffee does make a machine that resembles a Moccamaster in design. But so does Krups. The design is no longer protected. Simplygood coffee does make a plastic free version that costs more than the most expensive Moccamaster. The warranty on the Simplygood machine is 2 years, the warranty on the Moccamaster is 5 years. Simplygood machines are made in China, Moccamasters are hand made in the Netherlands. Technivorm continues to provide support, replacement parts, and out of warranty repairs and refurbishment even for machines and models that are decades old. With basic care a Moccamaster will last you a lifetime. I don't know enough about the quality of Simplygood machines to make a statement about them. I've seen complaints about leaking machines that were replaced under warranty but I've also seen complaints like those about Moccamasters which were a result of damage from shipping. I just can't determine the quality of simplygood's machines. The Mocca goes on sale about twice a year and you can pick up a model for 50% off retail sometimes. There's an enthusiastic hacking community for the Mocca that replaces the plastic brew basket with other alternatives like a glass Hario. My view on it is, Moccamaster is a legitimate BIFL machine with no bells and whistles. The SGC zero plastic machine could be a legitimately great BIFL machine but its such a new product we might not know of any issues yet.

I think environmental microplastics are a serious issue, however I think there is some fear mongering about the brew basket that verges on silliness. My personal view, which might not be correct, is that the brew basket is perfectly fine. Its made of high quality TPE (its kind of like a cross between plastic and rubber) and contains no additives like bisphenols or pthalates which can leach out. In the past they used polypropylene with additives but have switched to a high quality TPE. You can look at old models with the different plastic and see how it used to be thicker and looked higher quality but you can also see how its starting to flake apart in places. The plastic parts looks cheap, and feel cheap but they're actually quite decent and only use as much plastic as required. and they're user replaceable. If I hold concerns about aging plastic starting to shed particles I'd replace them with a new part every decade or so. And a full replacement of a brew basket and a carafe tube is a little over 35 dollars US for my model as of this post. Other people just don't want any plastic at all and find out ways to add different ceramic or glass brewers. That's perfectly fine in my opinion. I think Technivorm is working on a plastic free brew option that has similar thermal properties to the TPE basket. SGC had to go from 1400 watts to 1500 watts to keep the coffee at the proper brew temp because of the heat loss,

This. Get the one with the insulated pot if you want it to stay hot (sounds like she may live alone). Makes great coffee, very simple, looks good. 

Oh man, it looks like that and only has two rocker switches to control the whole thing?? Nice! As an aside, I was using the OXO Brew grinder for several years until very recently and loved it. For the price it was very reliable and consistent, but maybe just a little loud. I only ever switched to another one to save some space, and it still works great.

Coffee makers are so stupidly simple to engineer (90% of them have one heating element and no moving parts), so elegant designs like that were inevitable.

And…it looks amazing. I have one and it makes the best and most distinctive coffee I’ve had. E.g. I was on vacation and the BnB’s coffee was amazing and I knew they were using a moccamaster - the host confirmed it for me in front of my wife!(1st time ever). I heard three other couples comment on how good the coffee was at the same place. However, if momma is drinking pre-ground Folgers — it will make it taste like the cheap, shitty coffee it is.

Kind of.... *basically boils water and the boiling water bubbles push the water up a tube into a filter head and onto the coffee.* The MM also has a removable filter cover. This allows the coffee grounds to be stirred during brewing. Stirring seems to make a less acidic / distinctive tasting brew.

OXO is the way to go then, my friend. I have a Moccamaster, but it really only shines with "good" coffee. The times I brewed whatever bag of starbucks/dunkin nonsense I grabbed in a pinch, you couldn't tell that I had an expensive brewer. Moccamaster does look super nice on the counter though, so if you're thinking of early Christmas, it'll be an impressive gift

I have and love my Moccamaster. I use it for my daily filter brewing. If I’m feeling fancy with some quality beans I’ll use a V60. It might depend on how much tinkering you want to do or if you want an easy but still very good coffee experience

A BIFL coffee machine doesn’t have to be expensive, but some will be. What sort of machine is the Walmart one? I can explain a few of the terms you have seen but if you just want a recommendation for an awesome coffee maker that will last longer than you will, skip right to the bottom. The reason you get questions about “French press”, “drip coffee”, “espresso” etc. is because asking for a recommendation for a “coffee maker” is a bit like asking for a recommendation for a “food cooker”; it could mean a grill or a convection oven or an air fryer or a big green egg or a microwave or a camping stove. They’ll all do the same thing (cook food), but they’ll all do it slightly differently. So there are six basic types of coffee maker people tend to use at home if we don’t include Nespresso-type pod things (and we don’t; they’re not very good, horrible for the environment and *definitely* not BIFL). **Pour over coffee makers** are jugs that hold a filter; coffee grounds go into the filter, and hot water pours over the coffee grounds giving you coffee. Pretty much foolproof. You need filters for them. Definitely BIFL. A more-or-less top-of-the-range one will cost about £25. **French presses** (we call them **cafetières** in England) are glass beakers with a plunger and a wire mesh. You steep coffee in water, push the plunger down, and you’ll have some coffee. Easy to use. Easy to maintain. Definitely BIFL. A more-or-less top-of-the-range one will cost about £30. **Aeropress** is almost like a combination of the first two. A plastic cylinder holds coffee and hot water. Push a plunger down into it applies pressure to brew the coffee. Easy to use, easy to maintain. Was only invented in 2005 so can’t say if it’s BIFL yet. There are silicone seals etc that Inimagine would need to be replaced. The glass version, Aeropress premium is £150. **Drip coffee makers** are basically the same as pour-over coffee makers but they will heat water, keep coffee warm etc. Good ones *can* be BIFL but require some maintenance. A more-or-less top-of-the-range one will cost about £250. **Moka pots** are traditional little metal pots you can use on a stovetop to make espresso. Easy to maintain. Definitely BIFL. A more-or-less top-of-the-range one will probably cost you no more than £60. **Espresso machines** are the big expensive looking thing ms you’ll typically see baristas using in coffee shops. They force hot water through very finely-ground coffee at high pressure creating very rich coffee. There’s a fair bit of knowledge required to work them. Require regular maintenance. Lots of paraphernalia too. Can be BIFL. There are machines available for more than £20k so top-of-the-range is not really relevant here but superb machines for home use are about £600. You’ll also need a superb coffee grinder though. Ideally, you would know what type of coffee you currently make and what type of coffee you like to drink for a start. TL;NIR (too long, no intention to read): buy a [Moccamaster](https://www.eater.com/shopping/898703/technivorm-moccamaster-coffee-machine-kbgv-review)

The biggest difference between coffeemakers in this style, and cheaper ones is how they heat the water. Cheaper models save money by using the heat plate to heat the water. So you are making a trade off. The plate needs to be pretty hot to get the water up to temp. But not too hot as to boil the coffee in the carafe. That means the water comes out of the brew spout at 180F at best, often lower. Also, the burner is really too hot to hold the coffee, and cooks it after some time Moccamaster and similar styles have separate heating elements for the water and the hot plate. That means the water is heated to the actual optimal temp (just below boiling). It also means that the brew time is much faster- in the realm of 4 min or so for a full pot. Which is the correct brew time. Also, since the hot plate now doesn’t need to be so hot, it can hold the coffee at a much lower temp, and not cook it as it sits there.

Moccamaster is a great drip machine

Technivorm Moccamaster, the absolute gold standard for coffee machines and it does go on sale at Amazon regularly; you’ll pay for it but it makes drip coffee that tastes like pour over in a consistent basis and it is very easy and quick. You also want to make sure you are grinding the beans fresh in a burr grinder for each brew, even using the exact same brand and roast fresh ground has a more complex flavor profile.

Trouble with pour over and French press is time. . . I and other just don’t have the time to go through the whole ceremony every morning then wash it out and do it again. . . I love a nice pour over coffee but it’s not as easy as the MM. I do agree the MM calls for a lot of coffee, but it is REALLY good coffee. As for the grinder I’ve been very happy with the OXXO burr grinder, it really does punch above its weight; trick is getting the weight to time dialed in.

I've had a moccamaster for years. I use it daily. Taste is good. Overall, it has been a great addition to our kitchen. The cons are the gap from the basket arm to the pot. There is very little room, so I often find myself scraping the lid or bottom of the pot.

It's both. For drip coffee makers, there are only two variables under the control of the coffee maker: a) the temperature of the water when it hits the grounds, and b) the speed that the water pours through the grounds. When developing and designing this coffee maker, Technivorm committed a lot of time, money, and effort into testing and quantifying the most optimal (from a flavor standpoint) values for those variables...and then they spent a great deal of time, money, and effort creating the mechanics to ensure their coffee maker conformed to those optimal variables. Add that to the over-engineered specifications and the fact that they sell all of the parts needed to repair or rebuild one if needed and you have a truly BIFL product.

Yeah. Before I got my moccamaster, I went through 6 coffee makers in 8 years. All 6 died shortly after the initial 1-year warranty period ended. My wife scoffed at me for spending over $300 on a coffee maker when I finally bought the Moccamaster. That was over 9 years ago, so it's more than paid for itself considering it works as well today as the day we bought it. We are prolific coffee drinkers, and I think the other name brand coffee makers that sell for around $100 each just aren't designed with longevity in mind.

This is the best and only answer to the question. It may be pricey up front, but considering I was replacing busted coffee makers every 16 to 18 months until I bought the moccamaster, it has more than paid for itself in the decade I've owned it.

Wow, that's amazing. I cruise through my local goodwill a couple times a year and haven't ever found such a great find.

If they really interest you then it's worth checking during a prime day sale. I got mine for $160ish last year and love it. 

My moccamaster has been fantastic and flawless since 2008. It gets used every day, twice a day on weekends. Yes, I've had to replace the carafe three or four times and the plastic ones (My wife puts it in the dishwasher), but the unit itself has been bulletproof and makes excellent coffee. In fact, I can't think of another drip style coffee maker that makes coffee as well. Note: my mom got one in 2012. It is still used daily as well now that my sister has it.

There's only one answer in the coffee world...Moccamaster. Yes, they are expensive. Yes, they're generally regarded as the best drip coffee maker in the world. Yes, they will last decades or more. Yes, they are dead simple. There's two switches on the front. One is an on-off switch, the second switch is for the heat plate.

They frequently go on sale. I saw them not too long ago for $280. Amazon has the 10 cup model right now for $319. Yes, they are expensive! I bought mine in 2007 or 2008 and it is still going strong. My mom got hers, my sister now has it, it was circa 2012. Mine gets used everyday and twice on weekends.

Thank you. I feel like I'm losing my mind looking at this sub. My $60 Mr coffee has gone for 15 years and I've only lost the LED bulb. I'm all for buying better but this seems ridiculous. Plastic basket and water tank. No timer. Does it even have an auto off feature? If I'm spending $300 to replace the Mr. Coffee I want it to have extra features, better quality, AND repairability.

Yeah, sounds like an excellent second hand find!

Moccamaster is a few steps ahead of the OXO from a Bifl perspective. Moccamaster is just a tank. It makes good coffee (definitely not the best though) reliably and doesn't break.

Professional coffee person and amateur opinion -haver here: you want a Technivorm Moccamaster. There are cheaper options that are also good, but this is BIFL, and the Moccamaster is built to last, easily repairable, and makes superior coffee to most brewers. There are ~ 20 brewers certified by the Specialty Coffee Association as meeting their strict standards and about 1/3 of those are Technivorm models.

They make a single cup brewer! My partner and I also enjoy wildly different coffees so I understand the struggle.

Quite a lot more intense and it meets the brewing temp and time requirements to be approved by the "Specialty Coffee Association" which the Mr Coffee doesn't. The Mr Coffee is a good budget option though; the Moccamaster is very expensive because it's assembled by hand by the dutch rather than offshored to pseudo-slaves in Asia.

Breville Precision if he cares about the ability to tweak a bunch of variables, despite the brewer not being very remarkable to look at on your counter every single day. Moccamaster if he cares about design. If he’s into mid century design, things like Herman Miller furniture, vintage Braun products, record players, etc. Fellow Aiden if he’s into the latest tech They’ll all brew pretty good coffee, but in my opinion these three serve three different types of people. I care about my coffee and nerd out over my pour over coffee, but I own a Moccamaster because I simply cannot justify having an ugly coffee maker on my counter 24/7/365 when something as beautiful as the Moccamaster exists

I got a Moccamaster for $170 on Prime day earlier this year. It’s nice, there are definitely valid complaints you’ll hear on the sub, though. Some parts feel cheap, it’s annoying that the shower head is off-center, etc. It’s a good looking machine and it makes good coffee, but I am glad I got it for $170 and not $350.

No, it just doesn’t sit over the center of the grinds/filter. So it drops water off-center into them. If you have your grinds sized just right it doesn’t matter much, but it does make it easier for a crust to form on the far side and for the grinds to not get evenly saturated. It’s a complaint you’ll see on r/Moccamaster fairly often, and I’ve never seen the company try to defend it like they have some of the cheaper components. Pretty sure they just don’t want to change up any of their parts. That sub can be toxic though, I’m sure someone will jump in here to tell me the company can do no wrong and I clearly don’t understand how the Coriolis effect affect steep times and drop location or something. Still enjoy the machine, though— I’m drinking a cup from it right now

Espresso machines and drip-coffee machines at the BIFL level are almost always two separate machines, three if you need a coffee grinder. There's also a distinction to be made between quality coffee and durability here. I'm going to give you a few options based on what you want to prioritize. If you're primarily looking for espresso with the occasional drip coffee, and you want to maximize quality and durability: get a high-quality hand grinder, pourover set, and put most of your money into espresso. Something like a Commandante, Hario V60, and a Rancilio Silvia. If you want mostly drip-coffee, swap out the V60 for a Moccamaster and the espresso machine for a Gaggia Classic. If you don't want to bother with hand grinding, get a Baratza Encore ESP, though it's more electronics and some people would say it won't be as good as a Commandante. Hario, Rancilio, and Moccamaster have all been in the coffee business for 50+ years and there are heaps of replacement parts and guides out there. They also make great coffee and are well-known in the hobbyist and professional space. Baratza and Commandante are relatively newer but they also sell pretty much every single part you could ever need to replace directly and have also been around for more than a decade.

Moccamaster 10 years in and no problems so far. Wish I had bought it 20 years ago. I do not regret purchasing the moccamaster in the slightest.

Lmao, I don't know what their problem is. You're asking a valid question. I would assume when you go to a subreddit to ask about a coffee machine, good tasting coffee is implied.

I love my moccamaster and use it every day. If it broke I'd buy a new one tomorrow. That said, I think my aeropress makes even better tasting coffee, although that's really ideal for a single cup brewing. Highly recommend it.

They are much better at getting the water to the right temperature to brew and the ones with a hot plate don't burn the pot. Well worth my money in my book 

Zojirushi or Moccamaster (the mm is analog but plenty of people add a simple outlet timer). The mm is built like a tank and repairable. Descale it regularly and you’ll own it for decades.

As far as drip coffee makers go, the Moccamaster is as BIFL as it gets. Each piece is replaceable and the company stands behind their product. Obviously the more manual you go the more BIFL you get (chemex/pourover)

Its a bit more upkeep than I planned on but the coffee is second to none. They say its equal to pour over, but its equal to a perfectly made pour over.

I got dragged for complaining on this once but I feel like i have to descale it twice as kuch as a normal coffee machinenif not more

I already had all these arguments and don't feel like having them again. But I've lived in the same place, with the same water, for 6+ years. 5 months ago I got Moccamaster, and I feel like to keep the coffee at that level it needs way more frequent descaler. But I also don't have time or energy to debate this so, if you want to feel like you're right and it's in my imagination/for some reaon you understand and I don't/etc etc, please feel free. I don't care that much.

I do have a filter. I can try a brita I guess. I'm more comparing the amount my last machine needed descaling to the amount my moccamaster does. And it's about twice as much to maintain the quality with the same water. But, hey I keep it, so obviously still like it enough to do it.

I have one. All you do is press the button and walk away. It auto shuts off when the water is done. I've also opened mine up. It's very very simple and serviceable. I got mine second hand very cheap...the MSRP is utterly ridiculous for what it is.

It's just a nicer better more reliable coffee maker. At the end of the day, if you're happy with the output of a $20 Mr. Coffee machine, it's certainly not worth the cost. It still just makes coffee. But if you're more discerning, it will make better and more consistent coffee.

If you use good plastic…it’s fine. Why make a heavier, more fragile, more expensive product? Moccamaster is a classic because it’s good. Do I try to reduce plastics in my life? Yes. Is something inherently bad because it uses plastic? No.

Yep. The Moccamaster is the only machine that is grandma simple and coffee dork approved.

Weird, I've never heard anyone say the moccamaster looks cheap. Old and quirky maybe but never cheap or "Made in China", Equating cheapness with “Chineseness” is false because China produces goods across the full quality spectrum, also potentailly racist.

I think we have way worse things to worry about than microplastics and plastic leaching, especially from a product produced in the EU's regulatory enviornment that's never getting hotter than 100c. The disbursment unfortunatly requires a specialized tool and years of experince to fix... oh wait it's actually just a teaspon and 10 seconds of stirring ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I clean mine monthly and descale it every 90 - 100 days

Yup I just put the descale package in the filters box and when the filters are done then it’s time

Honestly just get a decent drip machine like a Technivorm or Bonavita and call it a day. French press is just coffee grounds steeping in hot water then you push down a filter - it's more hands on but tastes different (heavier). Espresso is way stronger and concentrated, totally different beast For black coffee the temperature thing matters less than good beans and a consistent machine. Those Technivorms last forever and brew at the right temp automatically so you don't have to think about it

I came here to say Technivorm. Ours is beautiful! My husband custom roasts single origin green beans for our use here at home and dear God. This is SO MUCH easier than a Chemex! Also, I broke the Chemex. :'(

It has an on/off switch and 2 heat settings for the hot plate. It’s not cheap, but you really can’t get much simpler.

For a no-frills, durable, and high-quality coffee maker, the Moccamaster KBGV is the one most people recommend. Otherwise, the OXO Brew is a more affordable and still well regarded one. Both are simple push-button operation. FWIW, I recently did an analysis on Reddit data for drip coffee makers. Basically ranked them by aggregated sentiment. Maybe you'll find it helpful [https://redditrecs.com/drip-coffee-maker/](https://redditrecs.com/drip-coffee-maker/) You can get a breakdown of what ppl have said about the most often recommended ones (disclaimer some links are affiliate they help fund the analyses)

The Moccamaster KBGV is the one most people recommend for solid taste and reliability. It's generally easy to clean too. Otherwise, the OXO Brew is a more affordable and still well regarded one. FWIW, I recently did an analysis on Reddit data for drip coffee makers. Basically ranked them by aggregated sentiment. Maybe you'll find it helpful [https://redditrecs.com/drip-coffee-maker/](https://redditrecs.com/drip-coffee-maker/) You can filter by price and get a breakdown of what ppl have said about the most often recommended ones (disclaimer some links are affiliate they help fund the analyses)

Moccamaster’s coffee makers are pretty solidly built and amazing.

This is my fave too since they make great coffee and are completely rebuildable (and have been since the 70s). OP, if he’s a buy it for life guy, this is the play. If he’s more into fancy automated features like bloom and being able to set his brew profiles then something like the Aiden is the way to go.

Couldn’t recommend Ninja any less. My OXO 8-cup replaced a Ninja Coffee Bar that was not up to snuff and finally quit working altogether around 5 or 6 years ago and it’s pretty good—certainly above average. I know if I looked at upgrading again in the future, I’d probably get a Moccamaster but that’s pretty well above your price range.

Moccamaster. I hate drip but had to buy one for sample events we do. Took a chance on the MM and love the coffee

I’m not a drip fan but needed a drip machine when ours died before a sampling event. Was curious about moccamaster from what all I’ve heard and someone recently asked us to grind coarser for hers. I got a KBT since I needed the carafe I love it. The coffee tasted great and it’s easy to use. It’s too much coffee for my daily but I pull it out in the weekends… and I finally be t to stop saying I hate drip

Definitely the Technivorm Moccamaster. Its a very popular BIFL coffee maker

Durability in a drip coffee maker is not a selling point. They all last forever because there isn't much that can fail. and replacements are cheap in the rare instance you get a lemon. Is durability really the only selling point for these things or do they make better coffee?

I would like to try one for sure, I've heard they make good coffee too

I agreed for a long time. Got a moccamaster. Never looked back. Fucking fantastic

They have single cup ones now too.

Moccamaster is better, full selection of spares and totally cleanable

Those sound nice but are like $300 USD.

Thanks for that tip, I will keep my eyes peeled since prime day is almost here. Worried that tariffs might be an added cost.

I mean it’s a great coffee maker. If you don’t care much about coffee, there are a lot of other things you could spend that money on, that you do care about. I run on coffee. I have a moccamaster and I’m happy I bought it after frustrations with other machines over the years. But if coffee is not a big deal to you, I’d say the coffee maker I had that made the best brew was our percolator. Main problem with it was it took a long time to brew, and it didn’t brew enough for my needs. Here the one I had: https://a.co/d/11rok9Y

Apparently this was intentional. Might just be advertising nonsense, but they said metal components cool the coffee too quickly and negatively affect taste. I’m inclined to believe them given their reputation

The Moccamaster has one of the most consistent track records for quality of coffee, durability and commitment to repairability. I'm not sure why you'd want to seek out a knock off, especially since looking it up, the Moccamaster is $100 cheaper, even not on sale.

Vinegar is bad for the seals in the machine. The lines will be fine, but you might get leaks. Citric acid is what I use as well.

Moccamaster is a sign of "middle-class" here in Finland.  There are cooler looking, better functioning etc. Models out there but Moccamaster is a status thing and sort of ironic(and yet not) joke amid Finnish people about first thing to get when tax bracket hits middle class, is to buy a moccamaster. Also they do last very long!

Get a moccamaster. So worth it. They go on sale every now and then, maybe black Friday will do it

Yes. Look it up. They're built to last and perfect for me and my tastes.

I'm a big coffee person. I own a Moccamaster, aeropress, pour over and French press. Right now my favorite is the Moka Pot. It's certainly bifl too

9 years of daily use is solid for any drip machine honestly. the heating element is usually what kills them and if yours is still going strong at that pace thats impressive if youre looking for the actual BIFL move though — technivorm moccamaster. dutch made, hand assembled, copper boiling element hits the right temp every time. mine is 6 years old and the only maintenance is descaling every couple months. they sell replacement parts for literally everything including the power switch. $300 feels steep until you do the math on buying a new $60 maker every 3-4 years budget alternative: bonavita 1900TS, does SCA gold cup temps for about $100-120. not as rebuildable as the moccamaster but the brewing is on par or go full BIFL and get a pour over setup. hario v60 is $8, a gooseneck kettle is $30, and theres literally nothing to break

the real question is whether the heating element and brew temp are comparable. moccamaster hits the SCA recommended 195-205F range consistently which is like 90% of why the coffee actually tastes good. most cheaper drip machines cant hold that range. less plastic touching the water is nice but if the brew temp is off youre just making mediocre coffee in a prettier machine. havent seen any independent temp tests on the simply good yet which makes me skeptical

moccamaster is the answer but timing the purchase matters -- they run real sales occasionally and it's worth knowing the actual floor price before you buy. been tracking it on couponpicked and the swing between full price and a genuine sale is meaningful at this price point. don't buy it at $350+ if you can catch it for $250-270 at a sale. also if budget is the constraint: breville precision brewer has a thermal carafe version that hits the right brew temp consistently and has held up for a lot of people for 5+ years. not moccamaster longevity but a solid middle option.

Get it off amazon during a prime day sale or around the holidays and youre almost guaranteed 30-40% off.

this. Other replies may offer better coffee, but the MM is for life.

If you want that customization, go for teh Aiden; but the bottom line is with chips and motors and pumps, there's no way it BIFL. When it breaks, will parts be available? Can most people with a basic tool set repair it? If it scratches your itch, go for it, but I'll take the simplicity and maintainability of the MM

The process is the same but a Specialty Coffee Association (SCA) certified brewer like the MM will be closer to ideal conditions for brewing, water temp and time, per Americas Test Kitchen most cheap brewers tend to miss by a wide margin. That said, if you are happy, no need to spend hundreds on the hope of something you might like better

Big question you need to answer is do you like the extended ritual of manual brewing or do you want simplicity? I went from discovering its not coffee I don't like to realizing its BAD coffee I don't like. French Press (messy) to Aeropress (clean but smaller batches) to recently moving to a Moccamaster because the ritual is fine for occasional cups, but sucks for a morning ritual (COVID). If you go auto-drip, make sure its s SCA certified unit. $200-$400. I spent more on the MM because its BIFL/repairable model; If you want to play endlessly to get an extra 1% and are ok with knowing all that complexity will break down sooner, Aiden is fine; not what I want. If you need to save money, stick with the pour-over/AeroPress soluions, And don't forget the grinder, money well spent getting a good one

What he said,, the MM is simple & reliable, but arguably you might be able to get a bit more refined coffee by dropping the the temp 2 degrees. If you need that sort of control, the Aiden is the one, but all that complexity will come at a cost in reliability. Personally I’d expect 5 -8 years out of the Aiden.

They cost a bit more, but they are built to be repaired, meaning they can last a very long time. Part of the expense also goes to the copper heat exchanger, letting it het to temp very fast. I've only had mine a few years but love mine, great looking and great performing

I got my gf a Moccamaster for Christmas and she loves it. All the parts are replaceable and they're hand assembled in the Netherlands. Admittedly they are plastic but I think its reparability and warranty make it BIFL in my eyes. I paid 150€ in a black Friday deal 

Moccamaster. So far, I’ve had twenty years of delicious coffee every morning from it. I did replace the brew basket last year. One of the rare “buy it for life” products in the coffee world.

Second this. I have a Moccamaster KBT model with the thermal carafe and it still makes excellent coffee after 20 years of service.

I discovered that my six cup Chemex fits in the carafe spot on my Moccamaster. Sort of an automated pour over.

I was going to say this. Resevoir parts being borosilicate is fine but switching the filter basket to stainless steel is going to massively change the way the coffee brews because it absorbs heat so much more than plastic.

Honestly the biggest factor is what is your financial situation like? If dropping $300 is going to cause stress in other aspects of your life, then a Moccamaster is probably not worth getting. If you are in a comfortable spot financially, you’ll be happy dropping the money even just to see the machine in your kitchen every morning because it is a gorgeous statement piece and conversation starter when you have company. For me, with my old coffee maker, I was fairly happy with my coffee but I found myself going to my local coffee shop 3-4 times a week because i wanted to treat myself, but now my coffee at home is better than what I can get from a coffee shop. So for me it has saved me money after only like 2 month worth of not buying coffee from the coffee shop.

Depends if you want to tinker and dial stuff in with a maybe unreliable product Vs a workhorse solid machine that will out live you

I hate to be that guy but Moccamaster does not recommend using distilled water. **What kind of water should I use?** "If it tastes good to drink, it will make good coffee. We recommend fresh tap, filtered, or bottled water. We do not recommend using reverse osmosis filtered water or distilled water, as it can damage the brewer’s boiling element. In reverse osmosis water and distilled water, all minerals are removed, and the water’s PH becomes slightly acidic. The water will leach minerals out of the copper boiling element to return to a neutral PH, eventually damaging the copper element permanently. Because we build Moccamaster coffee brewers to last for a long time, using reverse osmosis or distilled water could significantly reduce the brewer’s life." [https://us.moccamaster.com/collections/glass-carafe-brewers/products/kbgv-select?variant=46144651821219](https://us.moccamaster.com/collections/glass-carafe-brewers/products/kbgv-select?variant=46144651821219)

Here to spread the good word of Moccamaster myself. And while I do try and grind my beans right before brewing, I do have it hooked up to a wifi outlet so I can automate it and wake up to the smell of glorious fresh brewed coffee.

Yep! I have the outlet set to turn off every afternoon, and then in the evening I grind my beans, get everything prepped, and turn the machine “on” so when the programmed time comes the outlet just turns on and the machine starts brewing. I use [these](https://a.co/d/fkaojRS) with Google home on my iPhone and it works so well.

Can confirm. Got my first Moccamaster a few years ago after somebody make me the best cup of coffee I'd had in forever, made from one from the 1970's (so I was told).

They absolutely make better coffee. The same beans, same grind will be a foul scorched mess at my parent’s house and a robust layered coffee ✨experience✨at mine

This is one question that doesn't seem to go away... Reddit has a serious hard on for the Technivorm Moccamaster, but I'm going to give you another recommendation - Bonavita. I own both, and both are SCA-certified and brew excellent coffee. However, the Bonavita wins for me for the following reasons: * It's physically smaller and shorter, and can fit in more people's kitchen well. * It's easier to clean * It extracts better and brews coffee a couple degrees hotter * It's a simpler design * Bonavita carafes are excellent (glass or thermal), Moccamaster carafes are not (their thermal carafes are known to leak from the bottom because of a loose glass liner seal, and both their thermal and glass carafes are known to spill when pouring at a reasonable speed) * Bonavita uses a copper heating element just like Moccamaster, but is a significantly less expensive machine, and therefore much better value. Best of luck whatever you decide. Any SCA-certified machine will brew decent coffee, so enjoy. If you care most about good taste, start roasting your own beans, if you don't already. Also, I just want to mention that there are plenty of drip coffee makers whose manufacturers have never paid for SCA certification, but nevertheless brew excellent coffee. So while it's true to say SCA-certified brewers will make good coffee, it's certainly not true to say that non-SCA-certified brewers will not. One of my favorite coffee makers is a small 4-cup I picked up at a thrift store decades ago that has no manufacturer markings on it of any kind (so it was likely stolen from a hotel or something similar). It brews truly excellent coffee and cost me $4.99.

That reason is largely marketing and herd mentality. I own a Moccamaster KBT and a Bonavita BV1800. I'd pick the Bonavita as the better machine any day.

It may or may not have copper, but where I am, this coffee brewer sells for more than a Moccamaster. Even if it didn't, though, you can get copper internals in much less expensive brewers than a Moccamaster - my BonaVita has copper and even now they sell for less than $200 (It was about $100 when I purchased it many year ago). And I firmly believe the BonaVita makes better coffee than the Moccamaster (I have both, and have done direct comparisons.)

Your Mr. Coffee is not producing the same result. Because the Mr. Coffee is designed to be profitable at a very low price point, it compromises on function. The heater for the hot plate is what heats the water for brewing. If the hot plate is hot enough for brewing, it will burn the coffee the moment it enters the carafe. Conversely, if the hot plate is kept at a lower temp so as to not burn the freshly-brewed coffee, it is not hot enough for full extraction of the coffee, thus causing the coffee to be on the more sour end of the flavor spectrum. The Mr. Coffee takes the latter approach, so the brew temp is too low for proper extraction. The Moccamaster uses a solid copper boiler to heat the water, and a separate heater for the hot plate, ensuring correct temps for both functions. So it brews at a correct and consistent temperature and flow rate, and it does this with a lifespan measured in decades with daily use. I'm not bagging on the Mr. Coffee. It does what it's designed to do, and if you're good with the results, there's nothing wrong with that. The Moccamaster produces exceptionally good coffee, which the Mr. Coffee cannot do, and it's exceptionally reliable.

Water temp is going to be the biggest difference. The Aromaboy doesn't heat the water hot enough for full extraction. That said, the Moccamaster isn't magic. It only provides the correct brew temp at the correct flow rate. If you want an excellent cup of coffee you will also need quality fresh roasted beans and a grinder that grinds evenly which is expensive unless you get a manual grinder. Or a local roaster that grinds the coffee for you. Any SCA or ECB certified coffee maker will give the same extraction quality. The Moccamaster has the added benefit that it will last for decades with daily use. They're super reliable. Only you can decide if it's worth it. There are millions of people in the States that happily drink Folgers from a Mr. Coffee. (I'm kind of envious of them because I'm no longer able to be happy with that now that I know what good coffee tastes like.)

I hear you, but I have a different POV. That little timer control board with a computer on it is one more thing to fail and render your coffee maker unusable. The Moccamaster having just a physical on/off switch is one of the reasons it lasts so long and it also means you can switch it on with it plugged into a smart outlet, and you now have full home-automation or mobile-app control over when it starts brewing. That's something you cannot do with a machine that needs to be programmed to turn on at a set time.

1) No part of what you linked states that microplastics are harming us. I am not aware of any study that proves that microplastics are harming us. This doesn't mean that they aren't, it just means there is so far no proof that they are. Correlation is not causation. 2) I defy anyone to produce a study that shows that the Moccamaster's plastic disintegrates as you use it. 3)The validity of the findings of many of the previous studies have recently come into question: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/jan/13/microplastics-human-body-doubt No part of what I have stated is claiming that microplastics don't harm us. What I am starting is that we do not know if they harm us. And that is a fact.

If you say so. I don't give a shit about a timer. I do give a shit about reliability. I'll take simpler and more reliable any day.

I've used the glass version. It works well. Just like the smaller one there's no scorching unless you leave it sitting for a long time.

This. It’s a drip coffee machine - the concept is the same and the coffee remains virtually unnoticeably different from our cheapo machine. The beans/freshness/quality of the grind mean more than the machine. My issue, and reason for changing was that I never have luck with the cheap machines and would replace them at least once every 2-3 years for $50-$100 each. The Moccamaster is built like a tank and so far I’m on year 3 without issue. So if you’re cycling through cheap machines quickly. Then it’s worth the upgrade. Otherwise, not worth it.

>internally isn’t not designed that way. What does this even mean? It's a coffee pot. It has a hearing element that heats water. There is nothing about it that would make it incompatible with a standard smart switch, which is simply a relay: no different electrically than the physical switch built into the coffee machine. If they don't recommend smart plugs, it's because they want you to be brewing freshly ground coffee instead of coffee that has sat overnight. Obviously, freshly ground coffee is objectively better tasting, but whether you value that over not waiting 5 minutes in the morning is an opinion and has nothing to do with how the coffee pot is electrically designed.

Eh, I'm no expert, but isn't 60oz probably too much liquid to keep warm with a hotplate without scorching it? I have the glass/hotplate version of the normal size moccamaster and I'd rather honestly even have the carafe for this one. Yeah the "half pot" setting works fine and being able to see the amount left is nice, I suppose.

I always try to transfer my fresh brew into an insulated flask, because the taste after 45 min on the hotplate is not as good IMHO. 

They sell a single cup version too. https://no.moccamaster.com/products/cup-one

Heck, mine doesn't even have a separate switch for the hot plate. 

I have two coffee makers. A MoccaMaster that is 20 years old. And a Europiccola that is 35 years old. Both will outlive me. Other than descaling (which all coffee makers need from time to time), both have been maintenance free. If you drink coffee for the taste, letting your ground coffee sit overnight means a loss in quality. There's no getting around this. Not unless you buy a "it will break in a year" model that grinds and brews -- there's just too much that can break with those gadgets. Since I'm a coffee farmer, I have used basically every machine there is. I recommend the above two models. And a French press in case the power goes out. (And, yes, I have a hand-crank grinder for that. But it's a chore.) The ONLY problem with the MoccaMaster is that it is so good at extracting coffee from the grounds that it will reveal defects in the coffee you drink. A lot of people buy one, and their coffee tastes MUCH worse, because they're buying strip-picked, burnt commodity coffee.

I read this as not standard for a company to cover shipping both ways.

I finally bought a moccomaster last year for my birthday. It’s super simple to clean, operate and makes amazing coffee. Highly recommend. Ironically my wife hates it because it doesn’t have a timer, extra functions etc.

Yeah I fixed the timer problem with a smart plug. She would have thrown it out otherwise

For true BIFL Moccamaster is the only option. As far as I know it's the only coffee maker that you can still get parts for 50 yrs later. With proper cleaning there is no reason it will fail.

The difference between a $20 Mr. Coffee and a $300 Moccamaster is night and day. You’ll get better water temps, flow rates, coverage, and overall build quality with the Moccamaster. It makes a significant difference in the end product if you actually care about what you’re drinking.

Totally worth it, but watch for Prime Day sales.

Not sure about automatic but moccamaster is definitely worth it. They have a huge fanbase for a reason

That gap issue with scraping the pot does sound annoying, but honestly if the coffee’s great and it’s lasted you years, that says a lot.

Nice! I’ve heard great things about Moccamaster. Sounds like a solid everyday option with the V60 for when you want to experiment a bit.

I have a moccamaster as well and love it! Great tasting coffee

I’ve had some form of grind and brew for almost 30 years. Moccamaster, from the standpoint of having no automation, was an adjustment but I am very glad I made it as the coffe is hot and flavorful like it’s supposed to be. I would suggest you buy a grinder and start with grinding your own beans. You will be amazed at how much you coffee is elevated even using a basic coffeemaker. I suggest the Baratza encore grinder to start. It is a workhorse that’s been getting very high ratings for years and is around $150. It is a burr grinder which is a must and will last for years. I now have a Moccamaster k5 grinder which I also love and kept the Encore as backup. If you decide to buy a MM brewer, get the one that can be set to brew a half pot. Is it worth it? It is to me. I was replacing $300 coffeemakers that made not hot enough coffee every 3-4 years. Come June I’ve had my Moccamaster for 5 years. I expect it to last many more years.

Ah, that is what I miss with a fully automated machine; the ability to set the grinder also. I really appreciate beans ground just before brewing.

This guy is right. Really getting a moccamaster is more about longevity than improving coffee taste. Also I didn't see anything in there about what kind of coffee OP is using. OP if you are using pre ground coffee I would highly recommend buying a decent burr grinder and buying quality whole bean coffee. That will make a huge difference in your coffee taste. The machines may have some marginal effects on coffee taste but nothing like upgrading to quality fresh ground coffee does.

Only once every few months put a liter of vinegar through the system a few times. That’s it.

My moccamaster is 40 years old. It’s the buy it for life item of the household. It’s my most valuable possession. I love it.

That's what I have had for several years, works great. I bought it on eBay for a great price and combined with a govee switch, excellent coffee is ready every morning.

They were having amazing sales over the weekend on Amazon. I’d check there first.

I’d like to point out that these are Dutch and over a decade ago the currency rate was about half of what it is today towards the euro so it makes sense. These are endgame coffee maker designs and all over my country these stand as a testament of time from the 80s. If all offices could just use these babies instead of the ridiculous one touch coffee machines imagine the collective savings. Remove the anti drip manual valve from the filter holder immediately to avoid future spills. The automatic one is ok. The auto off timer model is useful but you can just use a wall socket timer.

Moccamaster is the definition of Appliance BIFL. It's designed to be repaired

One of the reasons I purchased my moccamaster was I would have to buy a new coffee maker (that was cheaper) every 2 years. Over time it does cost more and is just inconvenient. I have had mine for 10 years and the lid and burners working great. The nice thing is they will fix your machine even after warranty for $60. Also you can replace a lot of the parts on your own. I recommend buying one during Black Friday. Amazon has them for $200ish. Best deal of the year

Yes, make absolutely better coffee. The copper element is heating at stable temperature. The mostly aluminium machines have too low weak coffee in the beginning of the pot and overheated bitter coffee in the last end of the pot. So mixed a third weak coffee with a third good coffee with a third burned coffee in 1 pot. Moccamaster has just a good pot of good coffee. Other machines die in 5 years doing nothing anymore or leak. I choose the metal isolation pot for extra durability and electricity savings. Moccamaster for bifl is easy repaired with a screwdriver and available spare parts everywhere. My last drip machine died in 4 years. Now Moccamaster is 10 years old. Now I use cheap brands coffee and still taste better than anywhere else. My taste developed during this time and i can absolutely taste different machines make different coffee. Moccamaster still the best.

10 years have no issues whatsoever

I’d say it’s fine. Nothing amazing.  Biggest issue is that it doesn’t get the coffee hot enough. Adding even a small amount of milk or cream brings the coffee down nearly to room temp. To be fair though I always compare auto drip coffee makers to a cheapo Melitta that I got in the 90s from a thrift store for something like $5. No other auto drip I’ve used could get coffee as hot as that thing did without burning it. It was magical.

I saw this machine in an Airbnb recently. It looks complicated but am I right to assume that it basically boils water and brings the vapor towards the ground  coffee beans where it condenses?  Pardon my ignorance, I am a simple French press kind of guy. 

I’ve had my Moccamaster for 15 years. As long as you descale it regularly, it’ll outlive you.

Prime day had a good sale on it this year, for example. I think it was for a particular color, but still. Like others said, it is expensive but they have a great track record for lasting, & the design hasn’t changed for the base model in decades to my knowledge. Also it brews a full pot extremely quickly.

Have no fear in buying used either, as you can buy just about any part directly from Technivorm. Really really awesome machines.

My coffee maker just shit the bed after 6 months, after the last one (same model) lasted 5 years.) This time we bit the bullet and got a Moccamaster. It's built to be a mechanical pour over. They have a reputation for lasting decades. They're built simply but well, no clock or software, just two buttons. So you can't schedule, but it brews in like 5 minutes.

The Moccamaster is dead simple. It is as basic as they come. Nothing new to learn. Doesn't even have a timer function. You will need to buy a separate timer that plugs into the wall. That being said, it costs more because it's extremely reliable and repairable. It's the best coffee maker that makes a great cup of coffee AND is extremely reliable/repairable. I'm not sure I know any reliable coffee makers that makes mediocre coffee. 🤷‍♂️. Look man, as with any product, you're balancing three things. In this case, it's a quality cup of coffee, the longevity of the unit, and the cheapness of the unit. You can only pick two.

They are on sale all the time for like $280. This isn't "what can buy in my budget sub?". This is buy it for life. Go to the coffee maker sub for the 'what can I buy on my budget?' question.

Moccamaster with a timer plug or an Oxo 9 cup.

Aiden has its drawbacks, but it can be almost as simple to use and objectively can make better coffee with its temp precision and water distribution. Granted neither are close to under $100 for OP.

worth clarifying before you buy anything. when he said he was unhappy with portions, does he mean he wanted a bigger pot of regular coffee or did he mean the espresso shot sizes felt small? those point to totally different machines. if its pot size he wants, the moccamaster the other comment mentioned is the real BIFL drip answer. technivorm hand builds them in the netherlands, every part is replaceable, and the heating element actually hits proper brew temp which most cheap drips miss by a lot. around 300 new, cheaper used. if its espresso and milk foam he wants, the breville bambino plus is the entry point around 400-500. i've got the older non-plus bambino myself and its fine, not technically BIFL like cast iron is BIFL, but with descaling every 3 months and decent water quality (limescale is what kills these) they go 8-10 years easily. step up is the barista express at 700ish which has the grinder built in. james hoffmann's youtube is the best place to look before you commit to either path, hes got specific videos walking through what machines actually deliver at each price tier: https://www.youtube.com/@jameshoffmann. everyone in coffee treats him as the authority for a reason

Your exact use case calls for a Moccamaster. the bonus is that it comes in different colours so alongside making a great cup of coffee, easily, it looks nice.

Based on your requirements, a Moccamaster seems like the best fit. Specifically the Optio or the KBGV Select. If you make a lot of coffee at once, consider getting the thermal carafe version as that is far better at maintaining both heat and flavour. The glass version “cooks” the coffee on the hotplate, introducing weird flavours to the coffee over time. The thermal versions are often called Moccamaster Automatic Thermo in the EU/Nordics or KBGT/KBT in other naming. But it is significantly taller than the glass version. So my recommendation is to just buy a separate thermal carafe and pour from the glass container into that, which is what I do. I find the glass versions looks better as well. So: - Moccamaster Optio / KBGV Select - Optionally a thermal carafe (only if you brew large batches)

My Keurig died about a month or so ago and I did my research and looked at reviews for hours on every kind of coffee maker there is. I came to the conclusion that it seems like to get a reliable, simple coffee maker that I was going to have to spend the extra money on the Mochamaster. I ordered it, fully expecting to shit all over it. After trying one cup, I realized what the difference was and how quality the machine was in person. 100% no buyer's remorse at all. Wait for Black Friday or around Christmas because on Amazon, they were $100 off. I got mine for $280 plus tax in October. Next month they were $250, tax and all. Even though I overpaid, I still don't have any regrets getting my machine earlier. Best coffee machine ever.

What is most important of these: Price Features that allow changes to the brew Reliability and sturdiness Absolute best coffee possible I, personally, chose the Moccamaster out of these. It makes excellent coffee and it has only an on/off switch and is made of replaceable, well made, sturdy parts from a long-standing company which has large left designs unchanged. The above noted, I am not sure it is 100% the BEST brewer on the market and it is NOT feature rich (no temperature control, no flow rate adjustment, etc…).

I love ours. I wish it had less parts, and the fact that the basket doesn't sit level on it's own bothers me (flip the basket lid over and it sits nicely in there). But it makes great coffee quickly every day, and I can buy every part individually if something ever does break. If I were doing it again, I'd get the basket that doesn't adjust. It's gotten bumped 'closed' more than once, and it's well enough designed that the spillover works great so not a mess, but you're remaking the pot.

I've been eyeing this. I just don't usually need to brew a large pot for our family. 

I do the exact same thing for my MM. I prefer it this way. The MM is the BIFL part of the system. I might want a different smart plug in the future, so I like that they’re not inseparable

Literally same boat, the ninja is in perfect condition even though I just shallowly want a cool color Mocca. Can’t justify it and might never be able to lol

I had the OXO grinder in th past. You dodged a bullet there, mine lasted about 2 years and the grind size is inconsistent. Seeing as you didn't get a grinder (I see ground coffee) you should. It will make the coffee so much better. **Quality recently roasted beans, freshly ground,** and **filtered water** are the most important aspects in producing a great cup of coffee. They'll get you about 90% of the way. I know this isn't the coffee subreddit and may come accross as unsoillicited advice, but from someone that has gone down this rabbit hole and have about $1500 worth of coffee equipment sittiing on my counter, you should concentrate on those basics. Your Moccamaster is really nice. I don't drink drip coffee, but if I did, I would 100% buy one, they are beautiful devices and you can repair them easily. Also an fellow Houstonian, HEB is great, but there coffee could be a lot better.

You might want to consider one of the thermal carafe versions as they include a stopper lid you can swap on after brewing finishes that seals the carafe and keeps the coffee warm for an extended period

Or they can just add a half inch to the shower arm and no one would need to dial anything in.

I’ve had a Technivorm Moccamaster for about 6 years now and it’s very good. I do wish the sprayer arm expended a little further over the basket though. Definitely worth the retail price, even better if you have a little patience and can find one on sale. As much as I love my Moccamaster, I’ve been wanting to get a Balmuda brewer, it’s about double the price, but my Moccamaster will probably last forever.

Right, because I’m the only one that has that complaint… no one else has ever complained about that before… learning “how to use the machine” shouldn’t be an excuse for poor design.

That’s my main complaint about the Moccamaster, the shower arm needs to be a half inch to full inch longer. I basically have to use a spoon to get half of the coffee ground wet. Not sure why Technivorm can’t just fix this issue. I’d even be willing to pay more for a replacement shower head that is long enough. Seems like a very easy thing to fix or some after market company to produce.

I have a French press and an aeropress and never had a coffee machine until THIS week when I got a moccamaster. Both French press and aeropress are capable of making better coffee, I think, but you can also randomly botch it sometimes, and it’s way more work to brew manually (more so with the aeropress). Moccamaster makes a very good cup consistently, so after many years of daily manual brewing, I’m loving the automatic brewing

Just fill up the water supply with enough water and coffee grounds for a single cup of coffee. Just because it has a full size carafe doesn’t mean you have to make a full pot of coffee every time

It's become the standard in Scandinavia the last then or so years. And we drink a lot of coffee. I've got one, my parents, my in laws, my workplace etc. They're everywhere and I've yet to see one fail.

Might be good, and maybe even superior to moccamaster out of the gate due to plastic free stuff. Will parts be available like moccamaster? A significant contributor to BIFL quality is a maintainable design with long term parts availability.

I have found a couple of these discarded and can confirm that their design is really good. They have long parts availability. One thing I don't like about them is that they have so many unattached parts. But they are high quality yet simple machines that do their job for the long haul.

For about $60 on Etsy you can buy the parts to make it non-plastic

moccamaster is a great machine if you want to brew a full pot pair with a baratza encore for a process that is still very customizable and easy to dial in a few brews aeropress is the gold standard if you want to brew each cup separately, easy to dial and hard to mess up Have you had pourover? Thats also an easy process but I prefer immersion, pourover is a bit too light for me

Exactly, it's an insanely expensive drip maker. You can get a stainless moka pot that's truly BIFL for 50$ and it will make better coffee. No idea why everyone glazes the moccamaster.

I have had a Moccamaster for 5 years and it still makes consistently great coffee. It just works, and couldn’t be simpler to use. I use a good quality grinder, nothing elaborate, and get freshly roasted coffee from a local coffee shop, so the basics are covered. The machine helps make the best of the beans.

Not sure why you got downvoted. The showerhead of the TV sucks, full stop. It's a design that should have been corrected years ago, and they haven't. Stirring the coffee bed is basically required if you are doing a full batch brew. You can get away with not stirring if you are doing a smaller brew - say 20oz or so. But even still the coffee it makes is good, but not great. I feel like a shill, but the Aiden does a MUCH better job brewing than the TV, but does not have the longevity or simplicity of the TV.

Owning both a Moccamaster and a Fellow Aiden, I can say unequivocally that the Aiden makes much better coffee. Longevity wise, it is obviously no contest in favor of the Moccamaster.

MoccaMaster is worth more than the cost. I haven't found a better coffee maker option, or value, in its price range.

I've only heard good things about the Moccamaster. I've got the Sage/Breville Precision Brewer (now called Luxe Brewer) and that's really good. Once everything's dialled in it's literally just fill up and press a button.

The Moccamaster is a one trick pony. Set (but consistent) temperature, uneven distribution of water over the coffee bed, no blooming without manual intervention, but vey nice industrial design and good pricing. I’m taking my chances with an Aiden and hoping using distilled water treated with TWW will save me from problems down the road. Seems like there’s an opportunity for someone to make and sell a really good reliable drip machine that is capable of handling temperature setting changes, pulsing, blooming, even distribution of water, mechanical agitation of the coffee bed, and maybe a few other things. The market for such a machine exists but remains unfulfilled.

Breville Luxe or if you’re into pour over take a chance on an Aiden. IMO best to avoid a Moccamaster for several reasons: no blooming without manual intervention, many cheap plastic parts, and a flume that does not evenly wet the coffee bed. Basically no controls over your brew. MM look great and make good coffee but they’re seriously dated. I’ve had a MM, Luxe and Aiden. Aiden is my daily driver. Best coffee of the three, although the Luxe is very very close and IMO better built.

Is it really though? There are presently 15 some brands (some with multiple brewer options) that have [Specialty Coffee Association certified home brewers](https://sca.coffee/certified-home-brewer) other than the Moccamaster series, and a significant number of them are 'press button and go' brewers like the Moccamaster. Oxo 8 (or 9) cup machine, Breville Precision, just to name a few, fit the same bill.

Agree here.  My experience...while a Moccamaster can improve the taste of good coffee it can also really amplify the taste of bad coffee.  If you're happy now you may be better off staying put unless you don't mind encountering some trial and error getting it to your liking.

+1 on the Baratza Encore. I had so many problems with cheaper coffee makers breaking and needing to be replaced regularly. It's particularly bad with the combo espresso / coffee makers. That all stopped when I got the Moccamaster. It has been solid for many years. The float switch eventually failed, and when I couldn't find a suitable replacement on Amazon I sent it in for service to get it fixed and it has been chugging along ever since.

How long do your $40 machines last? Do you mind replacing them at that rate? One of the reasons people get Moccamasters is their durability and repairability. If yours last long enough, you think they’ll continue making them at the same quality level, and you’re ok with replacing them, stick with what you’ve got.

Side-idea: take the AromaBoy filter + karaffe and pour a coffee yourself manually, testwise. Improvement? yes/no Then: buy some more expensive beans. Improvement? yes/no Then you might know what you want. I myself drink around 250ml/day. I thought of buying a Cup one for several times. But it is not reasonable *for me*. I stick with pourover; incl. a good handgrinder. Even though I like the Moccamaster for design and everything else.

**Moccamaster KBGV**, certain colors dip regularly under $250, even under $200 (maybe wait for Black Friday?) Plus a good **grinder.** Baratza Encore is good. Baratza Forte (with steel burr) if you want to splurge. Baratza isn't the most durable thing in market, but IMO is best for BIFL because they have decades of history providing spare parts readily available, cheaply priced, and user replaceable. The Encore, for instance, has a plastic burr holder that is cheap and easy to replace, and designed to break first if a stone goes in the grinder, before more expensive parts are damaged.

I take it a step further and put it on a smart switch. I grind and prep everything before bed. When my alarm goes off it triggers the smart switch (and the physical switch is already on). I even make it do a bloom and turn off when finished by running 30s on, 30s off, 6 min on, finally off.

It has got to be one of the most BIFL items that plugs into a wall and manufactured in 2025. The glass carafe can obviously break if dropped, and can be replaced at reasonable cost. Of course it will need a little bit of maintenance running cleaning cycles, more often if you have hard water. And it makes great coffee. I still make a V60 pour over when I get a real special coffee, but for my "daily driver" specialty coffee, Moccamaster does a great job. It's worth the \~$350 it usually costs, but every couple months it goes down to $250 and under $200 a couple times a year (Prime day and black friday?)

during "prime day" in the summer I snagged a Moccamaster KBGV for $179, couldn't be happier with it, especially given the price. probably a good chance some colors will be under 200 over the next few weeks of sales. one nice thing is that the physical power switch makes it easy to add some automation using a smart plug. I have it start brewing coffee when my alarm goes off in the morning, and, I use the smart plug to automate a bloom stage and turn off the heat plate when it's done.

Thanks everyone for your comments - considering the repairability of it (and I turn my own screws), I’ll get a Moccamaster. 🙏

Moccamaster if you want the best no-BS drip that’ll last forever. And Breville Precision Brewer if you want great coffee with zero learning curve 👌

Go with a Technivorm Moccamaster if you like drip, or a Breville Bambino Plus if you want espresso. Both are super reliable and easy to clean imo 👌

Fellow is the ikea of coffee equipment (this is a bit extreme) Focus is on great design and usability but there’s a quality trade off Moccamaster is a legit bifl (buy if for life) machine.

I did pour-over coffee, aeropress, or moka pots for a long time and even had a pretty good espresso machine for a while. I got a Technivorm Moccamaster last year and love it. I've chosen my preferred bean, dialed in my grind size and amount on my grinder, and now I have consistently amazing coffee every morning, zero hassle, just joy.

Best choice. They also have a one cup version.

How much do you actually care about coffee? Like if you just care that coffee winds up in a cup, a moccamaster is _way overkill_ and the one cup shouldn't even exist imo as it's not really much more convenient than doing the pour over yourself and is very finicky/clogs/etc (at least at its price point). Most people overestimate how much they actually care about the nuances of their coffee. I don't have one, but I think the Ninja Dual Brews are nice because they do a decent job of doing all the things good enough at a not-insane price (pods + single cup pour over + carafe). If I were buying a machine for a whole household of different coffee drinkers I'd either do that or buy the cheapest drip coffee machine I could find with good reviews. As the sole coffee drinker in my house, I have an espresso setup as my daily driver. Figure out what your needs are from the machine and go from there.

They have models whose only difference is the shape of the filter basket. I don't see why you'd even need a total redesign as the electronics could easily fit in space that's already there. They'd probably need a new mold for their outer casing, but the electronic and mechanical differences are pretty small and a lot of it can be done with off the shelf parts.

I think it makes sense for them to have a version without it, but I do think there is a valid point that it doesn't make a ton of sense for them not to offer versions with a clock/timer. Clock/Timer is kind of trivial enough at this point that it's barely a frill.

I have my 2015 purchase still going strong with 1-2 pots a day. I love it. It’s perfect in every way.

It’s really great. I switched to decaf and my partner is still using caffeinated coffee so we do two 6-cup pots in the morning and it’s plenty easy and reliable. It fills our 20oz thermoses and a little left over for that first sip while we get ready. If you introduce more components, you have more things to fail. I have enjoyed my friend’s who have nespresso pods, but I won’t buy pods.

We got a zojirushi coffee machine a couple years ago, my gf really wanted it for the timer feature. Well, of course that feature got used about 5 times before it became too much of a hassle to set it up the night before. I also stopped drinking the coffee made in it because it was a straight-up bad machine. The coffee was always bad. Also it took way too long to brew. Also the insulated carafe was crap. It would get cold fast, and was hard to clean with the complex lid and small opening. We caved and got a mochamaster after a year. It brews good coffee, it brews so fast that the no-timer doesn't matter, it has the hotplate to keep it warm for a while, and all the parts are easy to clean. I love my zoji rice cooker and water boiler, they are flawless and have lasted years so far with no signs of stopping. But that coffee machine was awful. (I also didn't like the Zoji insulated bottle I had once, the lid is so complex it's impossible to clean).

Just checked my Amazon order history. I bought an $80 Cuisineart in 2012. I guess it died in 2017 as I ordered a $35 Mr. Coffee. It died a few months ago so I opted for the Moccamaster, which I paid full price for unfortunately. Makes a nice pot of coffee though and my hope is it lasts a decade or longer.

My Ninja died on me. First it leaked so I could take the tank off to fill it, then the LED clock died so I couldn't use the timer function, then finally the whole thing started to leak. Moccamaster is the way!

I had the same concern when I bought mine. As some one else said, fill it the night before and flip the switch. You'll have the coffee very quickly. Heck, if you're just making two cups, you could probably have it done in the time it takes you to use the bathroom. With my last pot, one of the first things to break was the built in timer.

Tell that to my Ninja coffee maker. First the tank started to leak when you removed to fill with water. The clock timer failed next. Finally the whole thing started to leak. I just got a Moccamaster on 1/2 price sale, and I do think it makes a better cup of coffee faster than my Ninja.

When I decided to stop going out for coffee, I invested in a moccamaster and it has turned out to be one of the best choices I’ve made. I can have good coffee at home whenever I want but I agree it does needs to be cleaned and descaled 3-4X a year to keep it working at its best. The cleaning and descaling process is quite easy. You just have to remember to do it.

You can get replacement parts in the US too. Many of them are shipped from Europe, but it's not like we can't get them. And the fee for repair is for out-of-warranty machines, which is 5 years.

It roughly equals the quality of a pour over, but automated. So you could try using an inexpensive pour over cone like the Kalita Wave or v60 to see if the difference is meaningful to you before you spend the money on a machine.

Moccamaster is probably the best drip coffee brewer. For ultimate simplicity - as in no moving parts - I’m a big fan of pour-over brewers like the kalita wave and chemex. An electric kettle and a kalita wave are what I use now after trying every conceivable coffee method.

I used to work at Williams Sonoma and I *constantly* had customers who were in looking at other completely unrelated things notice the Moccamasters on the shelf and wander over to them with the express purpose of telling me how they’d had theirs for x years and it was just the greatest and how happy they were with it and how they never had a single problem with it. It was actually quite uncanny, it was almost like they had a script. People LOVE them.

It’s also ok to just like how something looks and functions, the tactile feel of buttons or knobs etc. We have a bunch of different coffee machines bc I’m a gear nerd, and I want one of these simply for the looks and quality reputation. It probably doesn’t brew better than either of our $8 Braun percs from the 80s, but I also bought those for looks bc I’m actually a pour over dude that’s a Braun fan. The Lelit Bianca is my wife’s, where a much cheaper machine would likely be enough for her super-milky drinks.

If you have the auto-stop version, just don't put the pot in right away. Let the hot water soak the grounds a little first. In my, not a coffee connoisseur, opinion. The taste difference is almost negligible, and it's too easy to make a mess when putting the pot in, so I don't even bother with it.

I didn't used to have to d'escale mine when I was on city water 15+ years but when I moved to ALR 5 years ago I started having to d'escale. I'm on a treated well now and descale it twice a year.

For the thermal carafe version, it's just 1 rocker switch. It has a button to detect the carafe, so it won't make coffee if there isn't something to hold it (it also turns off if there's no water in the tank). 

Can confirm that a programmable wall plug is the answer for these coffeemakers. However, if you don't already own one, I reccomend the version with the insulated caraffe (rather than glass). It will stay warm for hours once you seal the lid. Re: Grind, it's overkill but the **Fellow Ode** grinder has flat (vs. conical) burrs which are well suited for drip coffee (most high end grinders have conical burrs that are optimized for espresso). It's also easily repairable and burrs can be easily replaced or upgraded.

$375?? That’s crazy. Go buy a Mr. Coffee. Or a Ninja. I have owned our ninja coffee maker for about nine years now. It makes us two pots of coffee a day and cost me about $70. Takes up less space too. That thing doesn’t even look like it has a auto brew function.

Love mine. Since it has a simple on and off switch, got it hooked up to smart plug in the morning

What’s the best coffee maker for the best tasting coffee, in your opinion? I haven’t used either of those but it looks like (if I’m reading their website correctly) that the moccamaster heats the water before the brewing starts, which seems like a huge step up from normal drip brewing.

Literally everything you say is untrue. Thermal carafe is important to keep coffee hot without using a hot plate (that burns coffee), again price is not a frill, the Moccamaster is easier to clean, maintains a consistent brew temperature, and has simple parts that can be replaced or repaired as needed for years to come.

+1 for Technivorm Moccamaster. Best premium, quality, no frills drip maker.

They’re built to last decades from what I’ve seen, so makes sense

Hm no, no timer. But yes, once the pot is ready, there's burner keeping it warm. What I do when I want to sleep as long as possible in the morning, is prepare everything the night before so when I wake up, I just have to flip the switch. Then I go to the bathroom, wash up, etc. and it's ready.

Ok this is obviously the way to do it lol! Love it

We had a Cuisinart before buying a Moccamaster. Cuisinart is a spray and pray coffeemaker. Moccamaster makes a much better cup of coffee.

>I am not a coffee snob by any means. I am from Norway, the country with the world's second highest coffee consumption per capita. Most of us don't obsess over coffee, we just gulp it down in bulk. And when you do a lot of something, you tend to want to do it properly and efficiently. >Once it gets cooler I drink like 3 huge 12 oz mugs over the day. So you are not a coffee snob, just someone who wants some decent amounts of decent coffee. Seems like our priorities align. The way I see it, you should buy the Moccamaster. Don't give it any more thought, just do it now. Give it a proper rinse every couple of months. Have your coffee needs met for the next few decades.

Moccamaster is one of the only SCA approved filter machines, so yes, it does make better coffee than most. Is it the best ? No, i think something like the aiden might take that spot now, but it’s consistent and it is well made.

I don’t think it’s gonna be right for you to be completely honest. It’s a great brewing machine; I don’t know about its longevity. But it’s tailored for people who want to fine tune their drip coffee and get the best possible result. The target audience is gonna probably get a nice burr grinder, dial in their beans, and use filtered or re-mineralized water. If you aren’t going to do any of that, this machine isn’t going to get you any better results than other, cheaper drip machines.

We got a Moccamaster recently and have been loving the coffee from it. If he's into equipment that's well made and can be owned for years and years, this is a good option. You can buy replacement parts, and send it in to be serviced if needed for a very reasonable cost.

I did this too just with an old school outlet timer, but still worth it

I had a small issue with the machine (totally my fault) and I called customer service. Someone answered RIGHT AWAY and she figured out my issue right away. That experience confirmed that I made a great purchase.

I am still using the one my parents got in the 70s or early 80s. Anyway it is still going strong

My parents got one when they got married in 73 they gave it to me when I moved out and I am still using it today. Only had to replace the heating element once. Truly a BIFL product.

It’s a bit more plastic than would be liked, but the Bunn Heat’N’Brew is a pretty solid option. Easy to clean and relies on gravity for the water flow so it’s a simpler design. As long as you descale it regularly (I recommend Urnex Dezcal), it should last a long time. One warning is that the water flow is powerful, so the Bunn branded filters are recommended. They have taller walls than the generics and won’t collapse. They are also not that expensive. Alternately, the Moccamaster is a good option, if more expensive. Sometimes you can find it on sale for near the price of the Bunn.

Their factory refurb sales happen occasionally, too. I got my MM from one a year ago.

Yeah, this is likely why they don’t. It’s not about protecting hands, but about keeping the brew water the right temp.

I had a Ratio 4 but wasn’t happy with temperature. It went back and I got a Moccamaster. Very happy. Easy, well built. I saved money by buying a refurbished direct from MM. As a side, prior to purchase, Ratio customer service was great, I usually had a response that day or the next. They weren’t so attentive once they realized I wanted to return.

A Moccamaster is one button but two or three times your budget. Refurbished models are around $229 on their website. I’ve read pros & cons to Bonavita but more cons as of late. Apparently they sold in the last few years & customer service has gone downhill. They do refurbs as well, google for the site. OXO would be my choice.

If you have time and patience. Wait till moccamaster goes on sale to $159. I know it’s a bit higher than your $50-100 budget. But I really think spending the extra $60 is well worth it. Good luck and hopefully you get something you are happy with!

Came here to mention the Moccamaster. The best machine for "regular" coffee. Not cheap, but that is because it is well-made and will last forever (parts are cheap if they need replacement).

I’ve now gone down to a level 19 on my grinder and it seems to have done the trick. It’s interesting how moccamaster (and a lot of other people on the internet) recommends doing a medium course and states that store bought ground coffee is too fine. Where I am now for grind size it is much finer than store bought pre ground coffee and I am also grinding it much finer than my old drip coffee maker as that was ground to a level 36 compared to 19 now with the moccamaster.

Ok will try this. With the last grind size I did this morning it did back up the basket and cover all the grounds which I thought would result in a nice strong cup but for some reason it was pretty bland. I will try even finer thanks!

I am also confused as everything I’ve seen online praises moccamaster and I honestly love the simplicity and style of it but I just haven’t been able to get as strong tasting coffee out of it as my previous zwilling drip coffee maker. With the zwilling I would grind at a 36 and the coffee came out great, nice and strong and full bodied. When I use that same grind size for the moccamaster it tastes weak/watered down. I’ve now tried grind sizes all the way down to 19 (which I had to stop for a moment so it didn’t overflow the basket) to 52. I have also tried a bunch of grind sizes in between. The only thing I can think of is the shower head doesn’t saturate as well as the zwilling leading to under-extracted coffee in some parts of the brew basket.

The highest I have done on my grinder has been a 48 and at that level it also tasted quite weak. I can go even courser but from what I understood finer=stronger/more bitter and courser=weaker/more sour. I am willing to give it a shot though!

I love my Hario and Kalita wave pour overs. Come in various sizes depending how much you want to make from a pot to a cup. I almost never use my Technivorm anymore because I really don't like consuming things heated around plastic or with water sitting in plastic

It's only buy it for life because the company stands by it and sends you free replacement parts or does more than you send it back for when it needs a repair. With all the stuff they replaced when I sent my 14-year-old one back when it started leaking it was worth the trouble to send it back twice because they didn't repair the leak the first time. That service was actually $99. They didn't make me pay for shipping the second time since they misdiagnosed and failed to repair the leak. I just don't like the Plastics they're very low quality and they are not durable. Plus I don't want to drink anything that contacts plastic when it's hot especially but pretty much not ever. Also the spray pattern it's pretty weak compared to some other pots now on the market from what I've read and seen.

Just get a Kalittak Wave. Cheaper, can get plastic free. I have a Moccamaster, 15 years, old, but cheesy plastic parts. The best thing about the moccamaster is the warranty, not the coffee pot

Because marketing efforts. You have no idea how far marketers go to astroturf products and services on Reddit. They spend $$$$ buying aged accounts, making sure those accounts stay active in diverse subreddits, etc. just so when they start glazing the fuck out of a product like Moccamaster, it looks legit. Not only does this boost reputation on Google, but LLMs like ChatGPT scrape reddit as well. It's just common fucking sense that the average person won't spend $400 on a fucking DRIP COFFEE MAKER. Lmao.

Moccamaster seems to be everyone's fav

Thanks mate..seems Moccamaster is the winner.

We just switched from a single cup to a drip. I chose this over the moccamaster because the stainless steel water heater; the pre-sprinkle to bloom the coffee; the programmable timer. This makes either 6 cups or 8 cups, nothing smaller. We have had this about a month and is just what we wanted. Behmor Brazen Plus 3.0 Customizable Coffee Brewer brazen ~$200 US.

Consumer reports had Cuisinart DCC-3200 as the top rated model with a 5 (out of 5) on brew performance. And this has Technivorms and Fellows on their list. Those get penalized on ease of use or ease of cleaning, or carafe handling, but also have 5 on their brew performance. I own the Cuisinart and was thinking about buying a Technivorm, then went on the Moccamaster sub and a fair amount of people saying their coffee was off and other Reddit users responding that there is a learning curve with Moccamasters. In any event, I decided just to stick with my current machine. I want tasty coffee at the end of the day. Not looking for a chore or any extra effort. Hope some of that is useful.

Temu moccamaster.  Just buy a moccamaster, clean it regularly, and you’ll never need another coffee maker 

All true. But $60 for a switch shipped from Europe still doesn’t meet my definition of Buy it for life. The sum of the cost of all parts bought as replacement parts would probably be $800. (Not a researched number. Probably can’t buy every part.) Good point about the five-year warranty.

Short answer:no. I have one and I like it but I got it for $200 on Black Friday and that is still overpriced. The boiler unit (the metal tower) itself is well made and reliable. The plastic ancillary parts are made of abysmally cheap flimsy plastic. If you are in Europe you can get replacement parts, but in the US the only parts you can get access to are the aforementioned plastic parts. They will not sell any of the internal parts. Instead, you can send it to them to fix for $100. That does not qualify for buy-it-for-life in my opinion. It does make good coffee but no better than any other less expensive SCA certified brewer. A Bunn HB makes coffee just as good for $139.

Oxo is a well made machine but I had the same problem as mastley3. Oxo was great and gave me a refund and even paid for return shipping. I agree it was the silicone gasket and silicone is non-leaching and non-shedding. Also, it was more smell than taste. I have a moccamaster. Its fine but highly over-rated and way over-priced. I think the Ratio 6 could be good but its kind of ugly and I haven’t tried one. The bigger Ratio is gorgeous. Another I will recommend is Bunn HB. Great coffee and great price.

Get the KBGV glass one. The burner on the moccamaster has its own heating element and does not get as hot as cheaper machines that use the water heater to heat the hotplate. Coffee degrades within an hour no matter how you keep it. For those in-between situations I decant into a third-party thermal carafe. The Moccamaster carafes are of the vacuum type which are fragile and they are $85 to replace. Plus the thermal machines are uglier than the glass ones.

The lid and handle on the glass carafe on mine won’t even stay together to pour while raising the lid. The little nubs slip out of the thin flimsy flanges. I think quality can vary from unit to unit, as the common problem with chips on the heatplate demonstrates. That’s why you can have some people aggravated and others distrusting their experience. To me that also suggests a deficiency in their quality control.

The chinese label may be obsolete but come on, it’s not racist. If you’ve never heard complaints of the plastics being cheap you’ve never visited the moccamaster subreddit. Even technivorm admits they look cheap but says its because they don’t use toxic additives, which is ridiculous because neither do Oxo and most other high end coffee machines and they’re plastics aren’t thin and flexy and are are dishwasher safe.

I think the point about the plastic is it is poorly molded and looks like something made in China. As for the stirring, kind of defeats the purpose of an automatic coffee maker. That said, it’s really not necessary either. The funnel fully saturates with the right grind size.

For it to qualify as BIFL they would have to make replacement parts available to owners. They do not do this in North America.

You gave no requirements so….kind of hard to say. Moccamaster is overrated and overpriced. It’s the kitchen-aid stand mixer of coffee makers, complete with fashion colors. I have one. I recommend Bunn HBor if you want to overspend Ratio 8.

If money doesnt matter get the ratio 8 or 6. If you are on a tight budget then the Cuisinart 12 cup isn't bad for 1/3 of the price, or even more. Though the Ratio is the best imo. A moccamaster isn't too bad but I would get one of the new ones with the 1-4 cup button if you chose that.

The moccamaster is better than the Oxo but the Ratio 6 and 8 are the best imo. The only one that may be better is the Aiden or x bloom, but that would be arguably. I think the ratio 6 and 8 are great brewers.

The MM and v60 combo is what I've settled on. Might get the deep cafec for small doses but otherwise, I don't need anything else and make stellar coffee every day.

I should have elaborated more. I love my MM, don’t get me wrong. However, it will never fully replace a pour over for me. I’ve tried to make full pots on the mochamaster of processed beans like cofermented beans and it’s horrible every time. Specialty beans are usually best with no immersion and higher flow rate.

Yeah, I don't get the ones equating it to a pourover. No way, Jose. Especially the anaerobic and coferments.

One thing it can't measure up to a pourover on is processed beans. I've experimented with all grind sizes and any coferment I've run through it has been horrible. Whereas, the same beans in a v60 is amazing.

If you just want a stupid reliable, low complexity, repairable workhorse of a drip brewer and cost is no object, the Technivorm Moccamaster is what you're looking for. It's an icon for a reason. I love mine.

Moccamaster broke my habit of buying the latest and greatest coffee maker every six months or so.

Plastic and poor drip disbursement over the grinds

I got the Bonavita. Love it, but kinda wish I got the moccamaster. But it was considerably more.

Also looking for one I can buy in the EU? The moccamaster is great but pricey anyone got suggestion for something around the 100 EUR mark? Thanks :)

Look, it's a coffee maker. And it's not a cheap one, although occasionally it approaches price parity with better consumer grade machines. Should you just go and buy one? I guess if you're Mr. Moneybags, go for it? Otherwise, you probably want to wait for a sale.

It’s definitely not worth the switch unless you’re a super coffee snob .

I got one for under $200 (black friday). I was not blown away by the taste or the quality of material. I would pass but everyone is different.

I have a feeling that many people get a Moccamaster and weigh their beans for the first time because they just bought an expressive device and want to make sure they get it right. They get the beans to water ratio right for the first time and are blown away by how good the Moccamaster is. I'd start with getting the beans to water ratio right first. Also check the distribution of the water over the beans and stir if necessary. See how that tastes. You can also check the temp of your water to see if it's out of range. If you have horrible water distribution and temperature then consider upgrading. That being said, I like my Moccamaster but was fine with my old machine.

The coffee won’t be that much better, it’s still an auto dripper, it will look cooler and last longer though

No, don't upgrade. If you want to nerd/hobby out a bit you could measure the water temperature coming out of your aroma boi. Curious how hot it is. I actually went backwards. Years of hand pourover, Clever, Kalita. Bought a $60 Zojirushi Zutto

I think if I'm honest with myself, I can't find a huge difference between drip coffee makers. These forums are filled with people willing to spend way more than me, on coffee stuff. Yes pour over can be better if you do it right, just take lots of practice. Espresso is great if your willing to experiment a ton and if you are adding milk, then it doesn't matter how crappy the shot is. And I just want a cup of coffee. The Moccamaster is well liked but the shower head is just stupid, but still may be worth it to some. I currently have the Zojirushi Zutto, because at the time it was SCA certified, but I cracked the carafe, but luckily not leaking. They want over half the price of the coffee maker for a replacement carafe, so if it receives further damage it goes in the trash. I looked at all the current SCA certified coffee makers and most have Amazon ratings of 4.0 or less which means the coffee geeks love it, but the common people don't. When it's time for a replacement, I'll probably go back Cuisinart as I've had great luck with them and they are well love by everyone except coffee geeks. That is just my 2 cents.

On the automation front, I just got a smart plug so I can set it to brew right before my alarm goes off

Yeah that’s definitely a concession

I have been using one for the last few years. I had a bonavita for about 8 years before that. Ill take the bonavita anyday. Ive been pretty underwhelmed by the moccamaster. I dont think the wand perc does a good job. Half the machine feels like it was designed by brilliant engineers and the other half feels like it was not. It looks good and has been very reliable but Id still choose the bonavita just for the showerhead perch. In your case I would say the simple answer is no its not worth it for you.

Moccamaster is the Kitchenaid for coffee. I love mine, I love the look, brews coffee quickly.

The grinder and beans are more important honestly. If you’re brewing store bought pre ground coffee, you’ll probably think the Moccamaster isn’t much better than your current set up. Once you go down the rabbit hole of amazing coffee, you’re going to learn quickly that a good grinder is very important. Someone mentioned the Baratza Encore, which is good grinder, but for drip coffee and pour overs I would suggest the Baratza Virtuoso instead. It’s definitely an investment, but it’s not a huge investment in comparison to some other grinders. I feel like it’s a good starting point if it’s not going to break your bank. I think once you make this change, you’ll understand why getting freshly roasted beans and a good grinder will take your coffee from “fine” to “wow, this is really good coffee “. And yes when you do these two things and add in the Moccamaster, you’ll see why we love it!

I think it's worth if you wanna explore light roast coffee, had ninja cm104, but I found it struggled with light roast coffee. I think before upgrading your machine, a grinder is more important part of the process. Investing in a good grinder first is the way to go.

Moccamaster doesn't recommend using distilled or something like zero water as it makes the water pull out the copper from the element causing it to degrade faster or something along those line. And also I'd say, as I have zero water myself, it def makes the coffee "flat."

I picked up mine last summer for ~$180 on sale from Crate and Barrel to replace a decade old Mr. Coffee It’s nice but I wouldn’t pay more than what I did. I would wait for a semi-annual sale (usually a summer sale and Black Friday).

I switched to a moccamaster from French Press and am still struggling to eke out the flavor of the press. I purchased a fancy grinder and scale and have been trying to dial it in - I’m closer, but the depth just hasn’t been there. The smoothness, however has been.

yet he is here. I would say it depends on what he drinks. If it's some cheap supermarket coffee, then no, there won't be much difference. If it's decent medium to light roasted speciality coffee then yeah, the difference could be huge.

Just upgraded to a moccamaster and, yes, it is worth it. At the same time, I liked my Mr. Coffee as well and would have been fine with using it forever. However, once you experience something more refined, it is hard to go back.

Also check facebook marketplace for used stuff. A Moccamaster and an Encore are both great starter machines, so they come along used in good condition as people upgrade.

I've been drinking coffee for more than 30 years. In the last 20, I've bought more "cheap" coffee makers than I can recall, easily eclipsing a one-time investment in a Moccamaster (especially if you target Prime Day or Black Friday). I was dubious as the idea of the "golden cup" rating for coffee makers. My drip coffee satisfied me every morning. Could it really get better? So when we moved into a new house, Prime Day coincided with that move and so I bought a Moccamaster to celebrate (and the color matched, which pleased the wife greatly). Boy, was I wrong about how "good" my coffee had been. Now I have two machines (one in a downstairs den so I can brew a pot on the weekend if my wife wants to sleep in a bit and she can start a fresh pot upstairs) and I drink 1-2 pots a day most days. Almost 2 years in, and I still marvel like a kid at Christmas how good my coffee is. Importantly, I am using: \- The same beans I've always used \- The same grinder I've always used \- The same filtered water I've always used The only thing that's different is the brewer. **If you think your coffee is good now and you aren't using a "golden cup" certified brewer, then unless your taste buds are simply not tuned to discern, you'll absolutely notice a significant flavor difference.** Speaking from direct, biased-to-not-believe-it-until-I-tried-it experience.

If you go moccamaster it goes on sale a few times a year. Keep an eye on slick deals. Love my machine.

Gosh I was in the same dilema as you and I love my Moccamaster now!!!!!

Is the bonavita as serviceable with available parts? To me the moccamaster's coffee quality can be matched but the coffee + part availability/simplicity is what puts it above the others.

Super basic, well built, repairable and makes damn good coffee. It really is the perfect drip coffee maker.

Agreed but…I reeeeeally like my coffee immediately. And I’m a, $300 hand grinder - roast my own coffee, type of person. Just depends on you I guess.

I’m very much a fresh grind and pour over Chemex die hard but after years of crying about having to spend 10 minutes without coffee in the morning, I’ve succumbed to a night grind and Moccamaster with smart plug morning brew. Honestly…it’s amazing.

Not sure if overhyped but I paid full price about 6 mo ago and I love it, I keep commenting bc it took me a lot of deliberation to decide. I went from chemex pour over to coffee being made for me every morning and I do sense a lack of flavor/change in flavor but I’m ok with the trade off

Oh definitely agree, you are quite correct

I bought a refurbished moccamaster nearly 10 years ago and I still love it!

The reason it's considered bifl is because parts are readily available. Anything with electronics or liquid seals can and will fail eventually. 

Moccamaster is great. Mine is 5 years old and makes superior coffee every day. I have the insulated carafe. The secret to better coffee is to temporarily remove the carafe and stir the grounds in the hot water a bit before replacing the carafe. I also balked at the price for what is really a very basic drip machine, but I wouldn’t hesitate to buy another one once this one finally wears out.

We had one in an office I worked in. So we made probably 3-4 pots per day. It was still going strong 6-7 years later when I left. I wouldn’t exactly say they are repairable, but they do sell some replacement parts. That said, I got an Oxo 8-Cup Coffee maker for home because they’re a lot cheaper for one. It’s Specialty Coffee Association certified. It has a thermal carafe and no hot plate. So it makes a good cup of coffee and doesn’t burn it. I can’t tell you if it’s BIFL, but I’ve had it for a couple of years and would recommend it. Now for grinders you can’t beat the repair support for Baratza grinders. They repair them for you for a set price or you can order all the parts yourself. (Outside the US the shipping kills you to have them repair it though).

For no frills, easy to use, and a consistent fine cup of coffee get a Mr. Coffee. Cheap and will last 10 years easily. I prefer the moccamaster because I like the way it looks. For my unsophisticated palate, the coffee is about the same on both machines.

Mr. Coffee is more BIFL, but personally I think the Moccamaster is pretty durable.

No I get it, but it seems their reasoning for not providing a simple timer is snobbery at best.

Thanks for the perspective. It still seems off to have to buy a timer for a $200+ coffee maker.

Coffee Chronicler summarized it well: "The Moccamaster represents a completely different era of tech. It's a simple, modular device that can easily be repaired. The complete opposite of the Aiden. A lot of the arguments that can be made for regular car vs EV are probably also valid here. Do you value modern tech and smart functions over a more basic design that has stood the test of time? Coffee-wise Aiden takes the crown"

This is the way. We just got one and I was skeptical it could be this good but damn!! It’s better than I thought. Parts seems easily replaceable. Pair with wifi plug and turn your coffee on from your washroom 6-8 min later perfection!

Technivorm Moccamaster is generally considered the best drip coffee maker. It not only makes the best tasting drop coffee, but it also repairable. The price reflects this. I don't own one, I have an espresso machine and aero press, but it is generally considered one of the best. Coffee overview: if you under extract coffee it is sour tasting, if you over extract it gets a bitter/burnt taste. Water temperature , extraction time, grind size, and  age all affect the taste. The coffee bean roast affects the overall flavor profile of the coffee. The different methods of making coffee have trade offs.  I won't go into the different methods since those have been covered, but I will say that espresso machines are an expensive rabbit hole and I don't recommend going down it unless you reach the limits of the other options and are willing to deal with the learning curve and cost of getting into espresso.

Technivorm with a $10 smart plug so you can start it brewing on a schedule or while you’re laying in bed in the AM. Machine is BIFL. When you have additional budget buy a Bartaza Encore grinder, also BIFL. Purchase high-quality freshly roasted beans and you are set for exceptional coffee without the labor or hassle of manual pour-over, french press, or the years long endeavor and thousands of dollars spend of learning how to pull great espresso shots.

Even a 20dollar machine should NOT make your coffee taste like burnt plastic lol. Those were obviously defective. Can't go wrong with it from a value perspective. 5 years of guarantee and the possibility to buy spare parts is just great. It's also the most recommended coffee machine in this sub for a good reason.

Number one premise for good tasting coffee ist freshly ground coffee. A 20 dollar filter machine will do fine, if you grind your beans just before making the coffee. As to the kinds of setups. The world of coffee is very big and there are many ways of brewing. If you want to spend around 200 bucks for a set and forget machine, the Moccamaster is the absolute winner. You put freshly ground coffee in, flip the switch and wait a few minutes- done. But again- the quality of each cup is dependant on a lot of things with good coffee beeing the number one factor. If you only need small amounts of coffee and you are willing to put some time into making it, then go for a handfilter setup. Look at Hario for example. It's like a filter machine without the machine. You have to put hot water into the filter yourself. But in exchange it's super cheap, gives you a lot of freedom and will probably never break- it's just a piece of plastic. If you were to go this route, I'd suggest to read up on grinders and water filters. You could get a handfilter + quality grinder + a water filter (filtered water is important for coffee but you can definitely start without) and some high quality coffee beans for less than 200 bucks.

I actually replaced my Moccamaster with a Zojirushi coffee maker(the Zutto) that cost a lot less and makes imo a better cup of coffee.  To op’s point, it’s about water temp and how well the machine can saturate and drain through the coffee.   The Zojirushi does it “better”. 

I inherited a 15 year old moccamaster. That was 25 years ago…. Still going strong.

I've had mine for 15 years. Just replaced the power switch once

They offer a five-year warranty. Few electronics can match that

You have to grind your own beans for it. It needs a coarser grind than you are going to find in preground coffee.

Well I'm a big coffee snob and the first day I made coffee with it I was driving to work drinking it and going "man is it in my head because I was so excited to try it or is this coffee insanely good?" Then I got a text from my wife saying "holy shit this is the best coffee I've ever had in my life." Now it turned her into a coffee snob as well and ruined pretty much any other coffee for her. I probably never would've spent that much on it myself before ever trying it so I'm so glad I put it on our wedding registry. If it ever dies on me I definitely will get another.

No problem! And yeah I'm not sure, I guess either way though it all comes down to making it and then drinking it rather than leaving it sitting. Mine doesn't heat the actual carafe at all, just heats the water and brews then it's just sitting there in the carafe. On my days off I typically make myself enough for two cups so if I take a while to get to my second cup I have to stick it in the microwave. Obviously that cup isn't as good as the fresh one, but that'll probably be the case one way or the other. Now that I'm sitting here thinking about this I guess I probably should just pour it right in the big Yeti-style cup I use on the drive to work as soon as it's done brewing lol

I go by the little table that's in the Moccamaster manual, that's always made great coffee for me and I've never felt a need to try changing it up. I grind with a Baratza Encore set to 24 although I've read that the number settings can vary unit to unit so each person might have to find what's right for theirs for different brewing methods. My favorite coffee is a single origin Peruvian from a local coffee shop called Shenandoah Joe. Because of price though I only make that occasionally, my daily morning coffee is the "Simply Nature" Peru that you can get at Aldi and some other grocery stores.

I love mine. It's not the absolute best in terms of flavour because there isn't much ability to customize the brew. But its extremely consistent. If you have your own grinder you can make most coffees taste very good as long as you adjust the grind size to taste. It's the best choice IMO if your priority is consistency and long life. The boiler and body of the machine is built like an absolute tank, and everything else is easily replaceable.

Definitely worth it, especially on bf. Bf on Amazon last year and Amazon prime this year both had them on sale. Bought mine last bf for 180👍🏼

I use 100x filter packs. Every time I get through a pack, descale. Easy to remember and a good cadence, although water mineral content will impact how often you need to descale

Though I don’t love plastic in general, I disagree about the quality on the moccamaster. I think it’s pretty good plastic. BPA free and I feel like it will pretty much last forever as long as I don’t step on it or throw it at the wall or something

Moccamaster. They last forever, so you make your money back in the long run.

Hard water here. I descale every time I go through a box of 100 filters. Have been doing this well over a decade.

Had ours for almost 5 years and is still running like new, we typically brew two pots a day.

I think its a good choice, i have mine for years now and you can get spare parts.

That is good to know! We don't have the moccamaster so I never thought about the copper being an issue.

The difference between a pour over (done correctly) with it's distinct clarity and "purity" of taste - can really only be understood if tasting a specialty coffee that fits your taste. An electric brewer does not produce the same level of clarity, its "muddier" - but that muddiness can be good and sought after - for example, if you have a good decaffeinated coffee (dark roasted huila) - it actually fits better to be made with an electric brewer than a pour over. Also - the coffee tastes VERY differently if you brew only one cup worth of water in the moccamaster - but as soon as the water has been pumped and before all water has passed the filter - pour the coffee and add water instead - the last bit usually contains so much bitterness and "dirty" flavors that only damages the flavor. An electric brewer can muddy a bad coffee and make it taste really good - which is kind of funny. Source: I experiment with a lot of coffee techniques, cheap and very expensive coffee - i truly love it. There is so much complexity to coffee that translates into very different taste, not just a note here and there but actually as different as comparing pepsi, coca cola and other colas - its cola, but they taste VERY different - you get that effect from the same coffee depending on a lot of factors. Some factors that affect the taste a lot from the same coffee: * Time after being ground * How roasted it is * How hot the water is when brewing * Method of brewing (aeropress, pour over small, pour over big, mocca pot, electric brewers all have different taste) * Coffee / water ratio brew - 15g 200ml + 200ml cold/warm water is very, very different from 15g 400ml brew. * and more Also; as with anything - whatever you prefer is correct - we all like different things.

Got mine last year, was going back and forth with the OXO as well. I already had an OXO grinder. 10/10 I use the half pot mode every day I think.

Bought mine 10 years ago without a single issue… one of my favorite ways to make coffee and just so pretty to look at

Thrilled to see all these positive comments about this on /r/BuyItForLife no less! I got this as a wedding present 5 years ago and have since bought it for my parents after demanding they switch off Keurig. It’s been a game changer and my parents swear by it now as well. Great to see they hold up over time to boot!

Its good, we had purs for 15 yeara, im a klutz though so have broken about 4 or 5 jugs so far, luckily you can buy spares 😅

For my edification, not meant as a criticism: Other than automating the pouring as the water heats, how is this better than a simple pour-over cone and tea kettle?

I'm sorry, I'm not into coffee. But can someone explain why this $360 coffee maker is better than a Mr. Coffee for $20? Don't they do the same thing? Heat water and drip it though filtered grounds? Isn't it all in the beans?